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Denon S5000 – Thoughts from the mind of a mixologist.

It’s been 3 days since I got this little beast and I must say it’s been an experience to remember! It’s been excellent addition to my setup and it fits right into the slot of being a third and virtual fourth deck ;) for me that is!

This little creation from Denon is crammed with features and it would probably take all that rocket science that you studied in NASA’s tech school to understand this CD player completely. No seriously this unit is packed with features and it would take at least one or two sittings with its instruction manual to come to grips with it!

Having said that it’s hard to even think about where this review must start. Please do remember that these impressions im giving are not from the turntablist’s point of view but from a mixologist’s angle.

I have chosen to start with the most talked about feature of this unit - the motorised platter. The platter is belt driven and aims to please the vinyl addict DJs among us. It feels stable and responds very well when you are cuing up a track however, when I put it through some small scratch routines I did notice that the cue marker on the platter drifted a little. This problem is faced even on the Pioneer CDJ 1000. The platter feels a lot lighter in terms of resistance than a conventional analogue turntable and in comparison with the CDJ 1000’s platter it felt definitely lighter/looser. The platter start up and stop times are fantastic, also the platter does not change speed when you adjust the tempo of a track. One thing that I found to be a little bothersome was when I tried to pitch bend using the platter. I found it to be extremely sensitive to touch on the side of the platter and it is tougher to pitch bend up than to pitch bend down. It would be wise to use a light touch with this one. The instruction manual also states that it is not advisable to try and stop the platter when it is spinning else it might damage the unit. I do believe that most of us would find that using the pitch bend buttons instead of the platter would be the way to work, as is with all Denon units. I must tell you that when the platter is set on search mode and the track is playing the platter turns into a more comfortable pitch bend mode as found on the CDJ 1000. All in all I think the platter is pretty decent, Denon has managed to pull off a pretty decent job on it. Only time will tell us if this is the future of all decks to come.

The next feature of this unit that has everyone buzzing with excitement is the alpha track. Basically this allows you to play two tracks off the same cd and mix them. You can use this feature for either preparing tracks in advance or layering a huge mix. When using the alpha track the pitch control has to be activated for it by holding a button down for a second after which the multifunctional knob turns into a rotary pitch control. This as you might imagine might get a little frustrating at times but if you are careful it could be used very effectively. I found that the rotary knob was more exacting than the pitch slider itself. The alpha track controls also have a set of pitch bend buttons which you might end up using a lot if you don’t get used to the rotary pitch control in a hurry. This alpha track feature has a pretty nifty function called a mirror mix. This is basically when the unit allows you to play the same track on the master as well as the alpha channel. The alpha channel however lets you induce a delay based on the BPM of the track. Once you play around with it for a while you will begin to understand how simple it would be to create atmospheric build ups and mad breakdowns. The alpha channel also makes beat juggling off just one deck possible! It is quite a mad feature really and Im still not fully into it! It can be loads of fun and if studied properly can be used as a bad *** weapon when doing battle in the DJ realm.

After having heard all that’s been said about the alpha track you must now be wondering how you could mix an entire set using just one cd player; this is where Denon has outdone everyone else in the field. Introducing the hot disc function. Consider this scenario, you have just mixed from your master track into your alpha track and now you need to load another disc and get cracking on another mix but oops! You just have one deck to work with! All you have to do is activate the hot disc function when the alpha track comes to a nice kicking part in the track, hit hot disc button which is also the eject button, watch the disc pop out and the track continue to play for another 35 seconds and then echo out… or quickly loop the alpha track, pop in a new disc, cue up on the master track and bang in another mix! Walah! It doesn’t get simpler! I know I know 35 seconds might seem to short but trust me, if you have your skills in the right places its more than enough time to get another disc in and crack a blinding mix.
Let’s step things up a notch shall we? The Denon S5000 offers you a plethora of looping knick knacks, sampling functions and the much talked about hot starts. All in all the S5000 gives a user up to 4 seamless loops, 4 hot starts, 6 stutter cue points and 2 sample banks. The unit offers a splice function with which you can simply remove unwanted portions of a track. A unit such as this would also require you to be able to edit everything from loops points to sample points to splice points and it does so with flying colours. The onboard sample banks can hold 15 seconds each (20Hz – 20 kHz) giving you 30 seconds in all, which is a lot! This unit goes one up on the Denon 2600 by giving you 4 hot start spot over 2 provided by the 2600. I can see things going pretty insane with this hot start fever. Just make sure you are fitted with an extra set of hands and eyes when using two of these units!
Denon has a habit of incorporating multiple tap functions on most of its buttons and the S5000 is not spared either. 80 % of the buttons on board have one or more functions on it and this can sometimes get a bit frustrating if you accidentally skip past the function you are looking for and have to start right at the beginning. Also I found the screen much too small for a unit of its caliber. Agreed that the unit can shift views between master and alpha tracks… why couldn’t Denon just make the unit a bit bigger... maybe around the size of the CDJ 1000 and throw in a screen double the size of their present one that could split into twin mode view so you could view both the master and alpha track status with just one glance? And while they were at it why not squeeze in a WAV form read out too? Surely with all the electronic wizardry happening inside the unit they could do that? A bigger unit might have also sorted out the unit’s button layout so as to maximize performance value.
Coming to the actual “mix” value of the unit, it is now one step closer to being the deck to beat. The unit offers a pretty decent pitch resolution. When the unit is set on a +/- 4 % pitch range the resolution is 0.05 % which is enough… although the perfectionists among us might be wondering why Denon did not match the resolution offered on the CDJ 1000 which is 0.02 % at a pitch range of 6%. I do think that 4% might be a little short of a pitch range that most of us would find comfortable. When the unit is set at 10% the resolution is 0.10% while on the CDJ 1000 it is 0.05%. I do think this is one aspect that Denon truly needs to work on.
The Key Control on the Denon S5000 is another aspect that might have Pioneer users a bit stressed out in the mix. It is not as clean as the algorithms on the CDJ 1000 and the mix can tend to get a bit weird when the key control is activated and a pitch bend is made. Again this is on certain kinds of tracks and is not a universal phenomenon. All said and done it is not on par with the Pioneer’s Master Tempo function.
On the connectivity side of it, the S5000 features full featured digital outputs on the main and alpha track at 44.1 kHz. It also has it’s much raved about fader start feature even on the alpha channel. The unit also has an extensive memory for all its memo functions and when connected to either a Denon X800 mixer it has the ability of sharing memory with another S5000.
To add the garnish on the all round good unit Denon has thrown in its usual set of goodies like the drag start effect, brake effect, echo, dump and reverse mode. Not to forget the dedicated fast search toggle lever for scanning through tracks. A mention for the budding turntablist’s would also be a forward scratch mode where the unit plays back audio only when the platter is moved in a forward motion thereby enabling some pretty decent sounding scratch routines without using a cross-fader to cut sounds in and out.
I must hand it to Denon; they have managed to squeeze an amazing number of functions into a unit of this size. Kudos to them! This unit would feel right at home in any kind of a setup and has enough muscle to do battle with the bad boys in the super clubs. It doesn’t make a difference if you are a bedroom jock or a super jock doing the rounds in a super club, this unit will give your routines the knock out punch that you have all been dreaming about. I firmly believe that this unit in the right hands would bring mayhem to world, and if you were wondering, I meant mayhem in a good way!
 
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I have to say that I've never been interested in mixing CDs. but looking at that I would love to get one. Roughly how much are they going for?
 
Prices

Anything from £640 quid each to £799 quid each inc VAT depending on where you shop.

Keep an eye out on the DN-S5000 Price List for a more up-to-date guide on prices :)

P.S. This site isn't fully live yet, so go easy :)

DJ Cheekyboy
 
mikecouk ,
I payed £615 for my deck from Sapphires...

Nice review Tricky...
:D
 
Re: Price

how did you manage that !?, the price on the website is 799, and has been for a while. Did you get a special offer the week they came out ?
You're very lucky to get them at that price in the UK !

Mike
 
I got a quote from another place (sound and light I think) and then phoned sapphires to enquire about their price promise...

:)
 
Re: Price

well done :)

You're not going to get it cheaper than that ! Maybe we should have a competition, !, who can get the cheapest dn-s5000's !

Mike
 
I bought mine for £625 each (incl. delivery) in Guernsey in the Channel Islands, which is always VAT free. Just got them yesterday and they rock!!! :D
 
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I got mine for £630 from Sapphires (using Tone's quote). But i think they may have locked down the pricing a bit since then (a couple of weeks ago). The other site that was £630 is now £700, plus Sapphires KNEW the other shop didn't have stock but still let me have it for £630 - but made it quite clear i was lucky!
 
on the other side of the pond....

i'm getting them in the next week or so, if anyone is interested...GLP, MAP, whatever you want to call the street price, is $999.99
 
good work fella!

I managed to get £40 of my CDJ-100 last year thru their price promise thingy.

It's always work trying a bit of a blag first.

lol


Plus what an excellent review, i think i must have 4gotten about
the s5000, but my excitment has been reignited.
 
Cases for DN-S5000

If anyone wants flight cases for the DN-S5000, we've now found a UK supplier. We've now setup a DN-S5000 Case Page on the dn-s5000.com website, to keep tabs on cases, so if you're interested in buying one, check out the link.

Mike
 
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