How reliable is the bpm counter in the Traktor dj program?

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I have decided it is bad for my mental state to try to work on my beatmatching skills without all my records having their BPMs written on the labels. I have Traktor DJ, and it has a BPM counter. Is it reliable? I have most of my vinyl recorded as wavs, and it would be a lot faster than using a stopwatch or metronome.

Also, what's the fastest way to get the key of a track measured? Would a tuner work?
 
sup >> i havent tried traktor dj but i use this prog.

http://users.skynet.be/bk264570/

the beat monitor prog. it works great and is pretty accurate >> i dun really need to count bpms too much but it helps when u wanna play and keep everything close to 0 and not sit there w/ a stopwatch. Just get the prog and plug ur mixer to the comp and start playing records (really ez to use)... Hope it helps !!
 
if you need a BPM counter you suck. especially if your music is electronic based like all techno and most hip-hop. the tempo never changes. you make me disgusted
 
i dont think theres any thing wrong w/ knowing the bpms of your records. The better you know ur records the better you'll be. And if you cant tell what bpm ur records are goin, its good to count them and be able to learn. And there is a big difference in 5-10 beats per minute, more in hip hop than house.
 
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Tyree D. said:
if you need a BPM counter you suck. especially if your music is electronic based like all techno and most hip-hop. the tempo never changes. you make me disgusted

Ugh, DJs with this attitude are sooo tired! If the guy wants to learn the BPMs because he thinks it'll help him with beatmatching then what is the problem? It sounds like he is just starting out and experimenting with different techniques, so give the kid a break!
 
Tyree D. said:
if you need a BPM counter you suck. especially if your music is electronic based like all techno and most hip-hop. the tempo never changes. you make me disgusted


nothing wrong w/ using a bpm counter to organise your crate. Just don't use it while beatmixing.
 
when I wanna know the BPM, I play a preset on my keyboard and try to match the beat. I've never needed a BPM counter and most arent accurate especially the tap tempo kind unless you can tap it accarately and I can't. I was once a beginner but I figured it out, especially when playing music with real instruments and not a constant tempo.
 
Tyree D. said:
when I wanna know the BPM, I play a preset on my keyboard and try to match the beat. I've never needed a BPM counter and most arent accurate especially the tap tempo kind unless you can tap it accarately and I can't. I was once a beginner but I figured it out, especially when playing music with real instruments and not a constant tempo.

So? Whats your point? You dont/didnt need one, neither do/did I, but I know people who just couldn't beat match effectivley, it took ages for them to get it, they labeled there BPM's and it helped them get used to beatmatching and recognising speeds.

No-one is the same, some people aren't like you, they need assistance. Stop being such a d!ck. In past post's you've given some good feedback, recently you've been rather negative and deliberatley vague. If you dont have anything nice or useful to add, stop posting.
 
I simply don't recommend a BPM counter. If you wanna figure out BPMs, play the record/CD then try to match the tempo with a keyboard or whatever calculates BPM. otherwise, you are cheating like recording your records into a computer; matching the tempos, piecing them together saying it is your mix. beatmatching is like trying to get two metronomes to click together. it shouldn't be difficult
 
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I see what you mean by calling it cheating if your in a club etc, but since when was DJing a rule based competion anyway? I see no harm in it, if its simply used for learning. If the DJ becomes to rely on it then yea, he/she should look for another hobby but for education purposes it may help some people.
 
if you are worried about matching the beats you should look into a mixer that has a bpm counter for each channel. pioneer makes one. But if you get one try to learn your music then you dont depend on a bpm counter. and you can spend more time on moving the the dance floor than trying to read the bpm counters. i see alot of dj's spin with no headphones. i do not know if they are using bpm counter, i think they just know their music collection.
 
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