Is Drake a genuine artist or fabricated...hmm good read

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Wait.. Another Thread where Niggas is gonna come in here n hate on Drake because he has a bigger buzz than their favorite artist..


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lol Oh silly boy tricks are for kids, this isnt about hating dun dun, its simply a piece on whether drake is a manufactured artist or not, there are no struggles with drake hence his music has no substance so on and so fourth, just read the article and give an enlightening opinion on the topic thats all im askin, look son i aint gonna lie i f%cks wit drakes music, i bump his sh1t, but sometimes there are two sides to the coin ya nah mean....its always cool to play devils advocate.....just to see where peoples laurels may lie
 
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That was interesting read...never thought about it like that but he brought up some good points...to play devil's advocate how can one really discount someone's artistic merit just by saying his struggle isn't worth anything compared to someone else? Drake is who he is, just because he hasn't struggled with dope slinging or *insert traditional archetype of struggle* isn't it a bit patronizing to say that what he raps about is just "whining".

How can you accept a guy that lies and claims he does something he probably didn't do in his raps(Rick Ross) but lambast a guy that is just expressing the way he lives? At the end of the day, people forget that rap as it exists= music. Music always has been and always will be a way for humans to express their feelings in tangible form and to support the soul in ways conversation can't....just because one guy's biggest pain is losing his girl doesn't make that guy unworthy....to that guy that one pain is the biggest pain in the world...just like to another guy seeing his friend shot up is the biggest pain in the world...to say that one outweighs the other is to deny the dynamics of the human existence. Hip-Hop is a way of life. Someone can be a rapper and not be hip-hop(see Linkin Park)...

To the "real hip-hop"-pers....it's like hip-hop is this exclusive circle and you have to satisfy this checklist to get pass....the day dudes started wearing shiny suits, and signing record deals is the day that this elitist pondering went out of the window. You cant expect to sell your goods and not expect a consumer dictation of what your product should be....if noone wants your product SWITCH UP YOUR PRODUCT...if you don't want to sell your product and you like it the way it is....DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT ANOTHER DUDE THAT KNOWS WHAT TO SELL THE PEOPLE. It's the difference between Charles Hamilton and Soulja Boy....the difference between RC Cola and Pepsi....McDonald's and Mom & Pop Joint...Joe Budden and Drake...some choose to do it for the love and some choose to do it for the money....
 
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ahhh i applaud you foot, that was well said, but to throw another question at you?....do you feel if drakes success is genuine, that the powers that b will start to mass produces drakes, ie. creating groups and artist that are back packer elitist because its the new trend....you know how labels and marketing/advertising works....everybody is looking for the next IT in hiphop...
 
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i find it funny how everybody is on this back packer sh1t when not too long ago, back packers were considered elitist, emo mofos lmao
 
I understand what you're asking....so in short yes....there are few creative people/leaders in this world...the rest are followers and need those distinct few to show them what should come next...think Aristotle, MLK, Michael Jackson, Hitler (sad but true), and yes even Jesus....the music world is no different....I gurantee you other labels not affiliated with Drake are searching desperately right now as we speak for someone that has the look, style, and history of Drake for them to release a few months after they see what Drake's numbers are. I also gurantee that person will be one of two things

A) More traditionally acceptable as "hip-hop" but with Drake aesthetics
B) More cookie-cutter, manufactured, and watered down than Drake

I lean towards B just based on the demographics that buys the most music....we can only see though....for all we know Drake could flop horribly but if he comes with another single besides "Best I Ever" that is universally appealing then I predict atleast 500k first week....because I know alot of different people with different tastes and I haven't met one that doesn't like that song.
 
so i take it you dont count young moneys-every girl as a drake hit also, i mean during my spring break thats all i heard blasting out of cars and that was about 3-4 months before the sh1t came out....to me every girl and best i ever had, alone should be able to get him to sell some records...
 
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I always forget about that song....it has seriously grown on me I found it annoying at first but I will not skip it at all if it comes on....but I think people need to know he can make a good song by himself or atleast consistently with other people to consider buying his CD....all of these features definitely aren't hurting but I think dude needs to do a song with a traditional pop act if he wants to recoup that 2mil they gave him...someone like Katy Perry or Beyonce....MJB is a start but he needs to be on someone's song that *everybody* knows who they are...but based on the amount of features he's doing I think he'll be alright....
 
I wonder if it's being considered "hating" because this article was written and posted on a hip-hop site. Like, would it have received the same feedback if it were written by someone who worked for Rolling Stone?

I thought it was a decent piece. I never thought about Drakes arrival like that. I think he's okay for what he is, but it's definitely something to think about.

Nice post, bro.
 
so wait just cuz u didnt struggle in life means you cant be a hip hop artist? i didnt like that article at all. You cant expect every rapper to have a movie like life, where after alll the stuggle and tragedy they came out on top. Thats just retarded. Cant they look past that and just appreciate the music? And how do they know he hasnt gone thru hardtimes? As for someone "taking him on" do we really need more beef?

I think people are attacking drake a little too much lately.
 
I think the one misconception of him is that people think hes gonna fix rap and bring all this real hip-hop... Trust me hes gonna be making music for the ladies specifically.
 
i always felt drake was missing something, and this article help me find out what it was. its substance/an identity. like that one model says he needs to connect with fans, cause he mostly just rapping to ladies (even though it is hot), but i dont really no who he is. like i no 50 is a gangsta, i no kanye is a weirdo, i no rick ross thinks he's a kingpin, but drake seems just like a duke that could spit but who is he.

he should do something like joebuddentv, but they'd have to have his planned out and edited cause if he say the wrong thang then he'd prolly lose some fans.
 
Drake is not the only fabricated artist by far. It's always been a marketing practice to make artist out to be bigger than they are. They've done it since the beginning of time. It used to be a bigger gamble because it would get people talking until the album dropped, get them a gang of 1st week sales, and then people would stop mentioning the artist.

In 2009, labels can't ask for much more. We've seen alot more of it. Rick Ross with his beef out of thin air while capitalizing on all his negative press(which btw is genius, not knocking or hating), all the critical acclaim, then his album came and went. Did alot better than it would if not for the marketing ploys, but still his worst selling album.

808s & heartbreaks...nuff said(no offense).

50 Cent- Curtis riding in with the beef over sales with Kanye. While I enjoyed the album, most of the curiosity was formulated through beefing w/Kanye West over that releasedate. Still 50's worst selling album.

Britney convincing us she was back with the "Blackout" album. Capitalizing on Paparazzi and media following her every step. Still her worst selling album to this day.

I can go on forever.
 
i mean...not everybody likes him...but at the end of the day...alot of people enjoy his music..i think to act as if people have insight to drakes life and his actual personality is unrealistic..how he was marketed etc...it is what it is..but it shouldnt shy away from the fact that people like drake because they enjoy his music ...which is why i dont feel the means of how he got here should be reflected in how he's perceived....i personally dont think drake is unauthentic...

the article seemed to be someone who dislikes drake...and to some extent the mentioned it for reasons which baffles me...they dislike him because he had a good team behind his pushing his product?
 
^ i still dont no who drake is, alot of hip-hop is either bangers or expression. with drake i dont see any of that, its just i get money fukc b!tches and fukc mo b!tches. aint see nothing that tells me who he is. he dont even rep his hood that hard
 
all artists are fabricated, its the entertainment industry..that being said, imma read it now
 
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^ i still dont no who drake is, alot of hip-hop is either bangers or expression. with drake i dont see any of that, its just i get money fukc b!tches and fukc mo b!tches. aint see nothing that tells me who he is. he dont even rep his hood that hard
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lol..i never knew drake was from the hood nor claim that...im just observing the reasons people give for disliking this artist..like, what you just said...dude has a ton of music quite opposite...like any other artist who are considered one of the greats (not claiming drake as a great) ...they have stuff with the same topics..alot...idk...just my opinion..
 
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