Question for users of Denon DN-S1000

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I have been trying to find out if the DN-S1000 has vinyl style cuing, or if it is the old cd-style (with the frame-studder).

While I'm posting....I'm helping a friend overseas root between a Pio 800 and the Denon 1000 to compliment his turntable setup. I personally own a Numark Axis 2 and a Pio 800 (i know, weird couple) but the Denon looks like a fantastic value. Any house/trance dj's use the Denon that can give feedback?
 
um, get the pioneer. it's better. im sure its got less features but its better.
 
Well this is pretty funny.

A while back I was debating between the two for my own purchase, and I went with the Pioneer because of the prevalence in clubs and (the bigger reason) the dial in the middle that shows where the virtual record would be.

This is now for a friend who's looking to add cd decks. I'm well aware of how good a buy the Denon is, I'm just trying to see if any DN-S1000 users can tell me if it has vinyl style cuing, or the old cdj style : )

But thankyou for your comments. I'll tally 1 opinion for Denon and 1 for Pio!
 
It has vinyl style cueing in addition to traditional CDJ style cueing but it's kind of hard to do given the amount of pressure that you have to apply to the scratch disc. Not to mention, only the outer portion of the scratch disc actually works so you're really limited in the size of the useable area of the platter.

If it were me, I'd definitely go with the CDJ800. Better platter response, better platter sensitivity if that's the big issue here.

Doc
 
(I misread CDJ 800) comparing the 800 to the 1000 is like comparing saying a chevrolet has the same features as a caddilac. the 3000 is denons equivalent to the 800, the 1000 is not intended for scratch DJ's as its features are so limited in that area. and just so you know, as that pio wears, you gonna have to put more pressure on the platter to get the thing to respond, (it IS pressure sensitive platter, no matter how u look at it)
 
i just bought two dn-s1000s and couldnt be happier with the purchase...imho much better than the pio.

YES the denon does have vinyl style cuing, in fact that is how they are set when they come right out of the box.
this can be engaged/disengaged by pressing the yellow flashing button to the left of the platter.

buy the denons - they are awesome.
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I don't see how anybody can say that they are much better than the Pioneer CDJ800s. One simple touch of the platter will tell you otherwise. One simple turn of the outer ring compared to Denon's Search Mode will tell you otherwise also.

I mean, look at the Denon DN-s1000 promo video over at http://www.denondj.com/videos/DN-S1000_demo.wmv

Notice how at 4:41 into the video, the demonstrator attempts to do a backspin and the unit doesn't respond? If the demonstrator...who is also the "creator" of the deck, DENON on these boards...doesn't realize how much pressure you need to apply in order to get that silly scratch disc to respond, what makes you think it's going to be any better for random end user?

It's apples and oranges.

Doc
 
the dns1000 its a very very good cdplayer.. but i dont know how its possible to take 2 seconds after u jump 10 seconds on a track to hear it.. 2 seconds !!??
can anyone tell me how to change the slipmat ?
 
I'm not going to be using the 1000's to be a scratch DJ, just for club playing Hip Hop/Trance/Jungle,

in that sense, how does the 1000's stack up to the s3000 & pio 800? i mean, if you're not going to be scratching, does it really make that much of a difference?

it boasts a large amount of features compared to them, still

just so u know, i just bought one on ebay (for a steal price :) ), and i'm waiting for it to arrive.
 
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i cant believe that this thread turned into bashing the unit. i love my 1000s!

if anyone is having probs with load times, i suggest going to the manufactures website and dl the updates for the player.

if you just got one for a good price...congats! i think youll really like the unit!!!

n
 
i recently purchased the denon s5000.
while on my shopping trip i checked out the pio. cdj800 and the s1000.

if youre just going to be doing straight mixing i would probably go with the pioneer.although, you can scratch and juggle with the 800 if so desired. pioneer are widely used in professional applications and youre more likely to find them in clubs.
it doesnt carry as many features as the denon,but its reliability and quality wont let you down. although ...i dont like the non moving platter(im a vinyl convert) it is a nice deck.

the denon s1000 is also a very nice unit in that it has a nice selection of effects and controls to do neat little tricks with. the control platter feels a little tighter than the 800 and backspinning is definately an issue there. its quite compact and easy to use AND it carries a nice price tag.(299.00 to 399.00) depending on where you look.

either way you cant go wrong.
but if you dont wanna shell out the money for the higher end models of either manufacturer...go with the 800.

or just save the extra cash and get the s5000. with the alpha track feature, you basicly have two cd decks for the price of one.

its been said a million times and i will say it again...its all up to you and what you want to do.

db
 
Doc_Lee said:
... If the demonstrator...who is also the "creator" of the deck, DENON on these boards...doesn't realize how much pressure you need to apply in order to get that silly scratch disc to respond, what makes you think it's going to be any better for random end user?
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there is no pressure needed on the scratch disc, just a slight touch.

all your comments just show that you dont know the denon. :rolleyes:
 
the_f said:


there is no pressure needed on the scratch disc, just a slight touch.

all your comments just show that you dont know the denon. :rolleyes:
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It is a pressure sensitive jog dial... not a touch sensitive jog dial. :rolleyes: And if it was only a slight touch as you describe, then why didn't the sound backspin when the demonstrator attempted to backspin?

Your comments just show that you apparently are blind as a damn bat and can't watch a short little video which demonstrates that, no, it's not just a slight touch that is needed in order to manipulate the jog dial. But, hey, if you want to play fanboy, go ahead and be my guest and ignore something that is blatantly pointed out to you. If you want to try out an actual unit that only requires "a slight touch" then try out the CDI500, which actually has a touch sensitive jog dial. The DN-s1000, on the other hand, requires pressure because, as I stated before and as it's stated in the specs and as is clearly demonstrated on the video, is a "pressure sensitive" jog dial. Have I played with the units? Heck yeah I have played with them. They feel like cheap pieces of crap with approximately 1 inch on the outer edge where the platter is actually able to be manipulated. The plastic against plastic rubbing you get when you actually turn the jog dial is completely unappealing to me as is the inaccuracy of the jog dial for even the most basic scratch.

Doc
 
wow, u losers get all caught up with the technicality and wording of crap "pressure" or "touch", who the hell cares.

as for the backspin part, i can tell you right now, that it works 100% fine, i just tested it. the demonstrator was probably turning off the echo or flange or the high pass or something

i got my denon dns-1000 about two weeks ago, i can safely say im 100% happy with it... while there are other units that can do more, but cost more, theres nothing that this unit does that it does poorly. The functionality that it does have it excels in.

as per the "quality" of the platter, it comes with an imitation plastic cd, but it was meant to be replaced that with anything you want, like a real cd with a harder/smoother coating, like i have. if it doesn't turn the way you want it to, you can also adjust the scratch sensitivity till it feels "right" to you

just defending my proud investment :)
 
The name calling was uncalled for WiKiD. I've used the s1000s and I agree that the decks require too much pressure.

While it's true that you can scratch with the decks. The amount of pressure required makes scratching less desirable then it should be.

Enjoy your deck WiKiD but for the quality I deem necessary in a deck, the s1000 won't find a home with me.
 
DJ WiKiD said:
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the demonstrator was probably turning off the echo or flange or the high pass or something
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not true.. i looked at the video and tried the same trick and the demonstrator really blew it up.. its an easy move but the dns-1000 havent scratched.. im a dns-1000 user and im not very pleased with the scratch and with the delay from fast search function.. but wtf..u cant expect to buy a good cdplayer with scratch at the price of 400 or even 700.. if ur seriously into scratch ull buy a turntable! the delay has no escuse but i love the player.. really good unit.. really good sound.. i prefer denon to pio.. denon really got class.. dns1000 beats cdj200, dns3000 beats cdj800.. i dont know about dns5000 VS cdj1000
 
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