Selling Beats is DEAD!!!

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SFTRAXX

SFTRAXX

West Coast Rap Producer
...Not really...lol.....yet.

BUT!!

I have noticed that asking prices have gone way down as the web grows flooded with guys just like you offering beats for next to nothing.

So My question is, when selling beets dries up, what else do you have to offer??
 
Construction kits. Beat albums on itunes. Apps for iphones. Selling beats to 40 and up rich people by persuading them to be an owner of a music company and give them bulk prices. Get with a crew and split the pie. Learn how to play an instrument and get that live performance money doing gigs.
 
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Construction kits. Beat albums on itunes. Apps for iphones. Selling beats to 40 and up rich people by persuading them to be an owner of a music company and give them bulk prices. Get with a crew and split the pie. Learn how to play an instrument and get that live performance money doing gigs.
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Great response.
Somebody's been paying attention.

One thing I will note as stated in a different thread regarding construction kits. Construction kit selling is cool, until you see you're kits on file sharing sites..
 
Beats was a horrible business. It got cheap like a 2 dollar hoe. This is what happens when up and coming talent has their backs up against a wall. We needs to go back to dealing a service not a product.When I came into the game dudes wanted to here all your beats and choose one they liked. Now and days I make music with an artist in mind and that artist is me until someone who has the time and the money says they want to work. I don't show people random beats anymore. I show them songs ... so they can gauge my range and style. If they smart they fuek with me ... if they just want a beat and don't think the music that I showed them was in their lane... then they are close minded and I would not have enjoyed working with them. So good riddens to them.


Anyway we got to take back the art of production as a service. I think things became tangible and people put a price on the object and not the actual work that went into it. You cannot go online and buy a good guitar player or piano player... or a whole marching band. But you can buy beat. See musician may work for cheap but ...it's work... it's a service that they can deliver anywhere and anytime. Beatmakers make a beat and it's there ready to be copied and used by anyone. If we start doing that then the little dudes that can't match us on service will be forced to catch up and make customized music. Maybe, Nah there will always be beatmakers making random shit for people who want it. So I don't know. But the service is where it's at... I'll charge 20 an hour anything after 8 hours is overtime. I'll walk you from song creation to recording to mix and master.... do all the paper work and splits and publish it too... Something like that... not really fully thought out. Plus everyone works at a different pace but then producer will have to deliever quality in less time ... more bang for the buck and that's just business. Hmmm I'll see where this goes... I got to think about it more.

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Live shows is where it is at .....And being your own artist is where it is at.... concert / party promoter.... . too
 
^^^^^^^^^think about this. As software get more and more advertised for the non musician as well telling them how easy it is to make music, the gigs and gigs of loops that come with software, the gigs and gigs of loops available for sale and free, the ease of time stretching and pitch shifting in software today, software that plays the music in whatever key for you..........who would really spend $100 on a beat to own when they come across that advertisement? The way I see it, soon as a song is hot on the radio people will have construction kits for that particular persons style......even for free just to say "I can do that". And what will beatmakers complain about? Damn, I heard that loop in one of those dvd disc I have and it's #1 on the charts!!! Damn....yet another one.....and another one. Garageband for the ipad has it to where you can strum a guitar and it always sound good. The ipad is about to kill beat selling online by it's self. lol!
 
And Boom goes the DY_NO_MITE!!!!! Yep I agree.... They got shit that you can dock the pad to... man..soon it will be crazy..
 
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Rappers are not the only market you can be targeting. TV/ads/film. Hip-Hop beats are everywhere on TV. Some of them are 10-, 15-, 30-second clips... but somebody made them, and somebody else paid for them.
 
Selling beats won't make you money, selling your brand will.
 


Imagine going back to the 80's with an ipad and show some producers this


Then you tell them it only cost you $600 for everything incuding


That does it! I'm selling everything and getting an Ipad. Gee what else am I going to do with all of that money?

Oh yeah
iO Dock Pro Audio Dock For iPad & iPad 2

It will be like average people saying "I made this song with garageband on my ipad" and someone else saying "hey have you tried such and such check it out it only cost $4.99 and it does blah, blah, blah. Now software people will fell how the MPC hardware people felt. "I spent $2000 in software"!!!! "Yeah....and I only spent $40.....and you can't do this...harharharharhar!!"
 
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Just waiting for protools to make their app. {no not v control}.. and I'm gone.... or for yamaha to add a docking station to their shit.... the new XF already works with ipads... but it's not made with the pad in mind.... oh boy I got a tech-boner for sec.... :o
 
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I'm in the process of developing a mobile app for the nightlife industry, as well as FINALLY going forward with my Music Business Strategy/Consulting business.

I'm also still writing and engineering, as well as producing.


It's finally time to put this 8.5 years of work together. I'm excited.
 
j.troup said:
I'm in the process of developing a mobile app for the nightlife industry, as well as FINALLY going forward with my Music Business Strategy/Consulting business.

I'm also still writing and engineering, as well as producing.


It's finally time to put this 8.5 years of work together. I'm excited.
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Good stuff.

I didn't know you sold beets?
 
Not trying to put a damper on things (again) but wasn't Hip Hop Ejay all about construction kits?

Drum kits will appear on the web within a few hours, JJ sold one on here one time and somebody PM'd me a link the same night.

Happy thoughts, happy thoughts...

I'm trying to stop doing this...
 
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^^^^That was hip hop Ejay and it sucked. The loops were not current for hip hop at that time (at all). It's a lot of companies doing construction kits, loops, ect. It's a lot of professionals using them....maybe or maybe not for hip hop/R&B but most definitely in other things. The larger companies in sound design have there kits packaged with purchases of other things like software DAW's and drum machines, keyboards, sequencers. IPad has a bunch of apps and a whole lot more future apps which will be perfect for someone to connect with on their loops. The android market is dry on the music tip but it will be booming as well. If a person is selling beats for $10 leasing an MP3 file of the beat, why wouldn't he want 4 beats that he arranged himself....24 bit files, for $30? And it's easier on the beatmaker also because he doesn't have to do anything extraordinary to it....it's all loops. The time it takes to make a loop is like no time at all. The purchaser gets all the creative freedom of putting it together and don't have to give nobody credit. There are big name companies that let you sell your construction kits through them like the beat selling websites.....not just anybody can join though.....but...someone will make it open to whoever want's to pay.....then it's over.
 
You'd have to have some sort of video as a promotional tool.... most rappers I've worked with only know how to look at YouTube videos when it comes to computers. Unless you were going to sell to those established companies.

I can see an artists wanting to arrange their own song because they may be able to take drums patterns from one kit and use it with sounds from a kit they purchased at another time. I don't know if they would want to turn into "producers" or "loopers" though.

Somebody is doing it though, I have a few construction kit DVD's. I even tried to make one of my own once, i made it to about 50 loops.
 
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