bandcoach
Zukatoku - Mod Scientist
what are your export settings: this is what tracking out is, so you need to set them so that automation is turned on for exports as are fx sends and inserts
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Pianoman281
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Do my effects have to be on a send? I have them on my master track and made an automation clip. Could that be my problem?
Wallengard
Manipulator of energy
No you don't need to put them on sends.
bandcoach
Zukatoku - Mod Scientist
it does not matter where the fx are; what matters is that you are including them in your export settings
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Pianoman281
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How do I do that?
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mycbeats
uptownxlonely
If your automation is on the master channel it is not possible to apply it to the stems while exporting because stems are created before the channel passes through the master.
For the same reason, you can't master your stems.
Think about it like this, if you pan your master hard left, your stems will still be in their original positions but upon reaching the master, the summation of all the tracks is panned left.
For the same reason, you can't master your stems.
Think about it like this, if you pan your master hard left, your stems will still be in their original positions but upon reaching the master, the summation of all the tracks is panned left.
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Pianoman281
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So how would I get my automation to export when I track my beat out? Do I put them on a mixer track?
bandcoach
Zukatoku - Mod Scientist
what are you automating? and why are you automating it/them?
answer those questions and you will learn if you need to apply some stuff to individual channels/tracks or leave it where it is
- if you are exporting each track as a separate audio file then you are probably not going to want the master channel fx on each and every one of them
answer those questions and you will learn if you need to apply some stuff to individual channels/tracks or leave it where it is
- if you are exporting each track as a separate audio file then you are probably not going to want the master channel fx on each and every one of them
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Pianoman281
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Im gonna post the beat to give you a better idea of what im automating. Give me a second
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Pianoman281
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This is the beat. I have the volume automated to fade in in the beginning and I have a filter at different parts.
SavageTheProducer
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I had a similar problem the other day using a filter in FL studio, I had FL love philter on the master track with a automation clip for volume… when i exported all sounds as .wav files i just muted every other sound except the sound i was currently exporting then, but i left the master channel on the mixer unmuted so the FX would play out…
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mycbeats
uptownxlonely
I'd recommend against this method because plugin's placed on the mix bus are meant to affect the summation of the sound which is subtly different from applying the same effect to each track.
In your case, if love filter creates any artifacts, saturation or resonance of a value, of lets say x, because each track has gotten these new properties, in a song with 10 tracks, you'd end up with 10x worth of them, versus the summation of them would only have x.
The most apparent difference is with compression, compressing the mix bus is not the same as compressing each individual track by the same settings.
For this reason, you can't "master" stems (I believe someone once asked this)
I imagine this to be true with all typically used mix bus plugins.
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Pianoman281
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So how do FL producers like Mike Will, 808 Mafia, etc. do it? Do they just use a two track? I know they tracked out the beat for 2 Chainz - "No Lie" Did they just add the effects in pro tools?
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mycbeats
uptownxlonely
They apply the effects during the tracking of the beat in the final project session. It's not just FL user's btw, it's anyone that export stems.
Also another tip is to bypass all effects that don't contribute to the sound design and add them again during mixing for example a certain track's reverb tail might sound good and make the track full as an instrumental but it might clash with the vocals. Remember effects can be added after stems are made but they cannot be removed from the file.
Certain effects are used for show, promotion and all that jazz but are not meant for the final song.
I always master my tracks, when someone purchases them I include along with the (wet) stems, my master and a pre-master because I wouldn't want to tie the engineers hands in anyway, yet I still want to show the potential. For major placements, I include my "wet" stems and "dry" stems, just incase I really messed up and the engineer needs to get to the root of the problem.
Always try to make the engineer's job easier; between the producer and artist, he gets the sh!t end of the stick lol