what comes first in the chain? autotune or gating?

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i feel embarrassed asking this question i should know but i just want to make sure.. anyways in the plugins order, what comes first? gating or autotune plugin?.... i assume its gating, compression (depending) EQing, then autotune... but i know some autotune plugins need the red the audio file as is... i'm guessing its best to leave it raw meaning putting autotune on the first insert.... anyone can clarify this?.... so far i've done gating, Compress, EQ, then autotune.. but is this the most effective way? or should i autotune, then gate, compress and EQ???
 
Do you really need to gate? My suggestion is to not gate at all.

Not that gate doesn't have its uses, but I think with most music, you can skip gating. To answer the question, if I was gating, it'd be the first thing I do. But I almost never gate. I can't remember the last time I use a gate.
 
what are you trying to do? When I think of gating I immediately think of cleaning up live drums or a 50hz sine wave triggering a kick. Either way you really should not have any inserts besides autotune on your vox track until your vox is in tune.

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you shouldnt try to mix prior to editing
 
thanks guys, and i am trying to make some pop style vocals (like britney spears, kesha etc) and my room isn't acoustically treated at all so there's some buzzing and stuff that comes from the background, so i was doing gate, EQ, compression, autotune, on my insert... i was wondering if that chain is correct, or should it be autotune, gating, eq then compression
 
RhyanCrisis said:
thanks guys, and i am trying to make some pop style vocals (like britney spears, kesha etc) and my room isn't acoustically treated at all so there's some buzzing and stuff that comes from the background, so i was doing gate, EQ, compression, autotune, on my insert... i was wondering if that chain is correct, or should it be autotune, gating, eq then compression
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okay I didn't know you where tracking and mixing vocal maybe I missed that in your first post
yeah you'll probably have to do some pitch correction for a pop song
and do some crazy vocal effects to make it interesting
edit your vocals then worry about eq,compressor,delay,reverb
but experiment you could find a interesting vocal sound



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Where is the buzzing/extra noise coming from...
Computer in background?
Other?
What is your vocal chain into your computer?
USB Mic? Regular Mic and Preamp?

You should tackle the issue of the noise first.
So that you can get a clean recording.
 
Hoenstly.. I find it much easier to cut and delete silence in a DAW than using a Gate. I can never get the gate settings where I want them.They always cut out audio I wanted to keep, and vice versa.

However... if you must use a Gate.. I would probably use it first logistically. That way u know exactly what parts of the clip you'll be processing. Then just tune it. But.. I don't see how either or would make an audible difference in the end. Probably more of a mental difference in your workflow.
 
sleepy said:
Do you really need to gate?
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You might get a better result by editing the audio into what you ultimately would have like the gate to do. In my opinion that is much more reliable especially for lead vocals. Misfires and other inherent issues with gates aren't worth the trouble in MOST cases.
 
As stated before, I really really really would't use a gate on a vocal unless absolutely necessary. And even if circumstances would call for it I would rather rerecord the vocal altogether, or just go in and strip and fade the part piece by piece. Even if it takes hours and hours, it will still give you a better result than gating it.

autotune > EQ > Compression/De-Esser > Misc Effects
 
Gating first, otherwise Autotune will grab those sounds and try to tune them and you'll get that cheaply tuned sound.
 
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