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Eddiemagic5
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Im wondering what a backpack rapper is??
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Kingg Rell
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Backpack Rapper
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backpack rapper-
Person who dislikes Mainstream and Commercial rap a lot.
Person who raps about real life **** that matters and has experienced, rarely about pimping hoes/having millions/selling immense ammounts of drugs/murdering random people for no apparent reason or motive.Person who is true to himself while rapping and uses his head and heart to write not only a pen and meaningless words.
Bsically, a backpacker is a cat that spends most of his/her time traveling through public transit. theyre a huge fan of music but mostly on a lyrically tip because they have a greater grasp and focus on lyrics that kills time while their traveling on the bus, subway, etc. they dont have the money to be rolling in luxury cars, etc. so when you come across a backpacker, theyre usually more of a lyrical cat because all they have is a walkman and a grip of cd's in their backpacks. with a walkman, youre usually more focused on words rathers than beats and hooks. thats why most backpackers are considered more into the underground hiphop scene where artist's are more about lyrics. you usually find backpackers in inner cities because public transit is cheap, and to get from point a to point b isnt that far of a route.
73 up, 18 downbackpack rapper-Person who dislikes Mainstream and Commercial rap a lot.
Person who raps about real life **** that matters and has experienced, rarely about pimping hoes/having millions/selling immense ammounts of drugs/murdering random people for no apparent reason or motive.Person who is true to himself while rapping and uses his head and heart to write not only a pen and meaningless words.
Bsically, a backpacker is a cat that spends most of his/her time traveling through public transit. theyre a huge fan of music but mostly on a lyrically tip because they have a greater grasp and focus on lyrics that kills time while their traveling on the bus, subway, etc. they dont have the money to be rolling in luxury cars, etc. so when you come across a backpacker, theyre usually more of a lyrical cat because all they have is a walkman and a grip of cd's in their backpacks. with a walkman, youre usually more focused on words rathers than beats and hooks. thats why most backpackers are considered more into the underground hiphop scene where artist's are more about lyrics. you usually find backpackers in inner cities because public transit is cheap, and to get from point a to point b isnt that far of a route.
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Fixed that up a little for ya.Kingg Rell said:Backpack Rapper
Person who dislikes Mainstream and Commercial rap a lot.
Person who raps about real life **** that only matters to them and has been experienced, but not dwelled on by everyone. Rarely about pimping hoes/having millions/selling immense ammounts of drugs/murdering random people for no apparent reason or motive, but often do these things in real life. Person who is fake as everyone else while rapping but convinces consumers he uses his head and heart to write not only a pen and meaningless words.(Reference Nas and Kelis fighting prostitutes they didn't pay, Common beating up fans, Lupe's drug dealing label CEO, Kweli being caught in love triangles and getting smacked around by women he was cheating on).
Bsically, a backpacker is a cat that spends most of his/her time traveling through public transit because they can't afford carsa and make excuses like they don't drive to help the eco system. theyre a huge fan of music but mostly stuff they think is hot, don't take the time to listen to wide varieties of hip hop, they just call the stuff they don't like "Mainstream" and say it's not "real hip hop" they have no greater grasp and focus on lyrics, they just think people are more lyrical if they talk about sh*t people who ride the bus and have no money or women talk about. that kills time while their traveling on the bus, subway, etc. they dont have the money to be rolling in luxury cars, etc. so when you come across a backpacker, theyre usually more of a lyrical cat because all they have is a walkman and a grip of cd's in their backpacks. with a walkman, youre usually more focused on words rathers than beats and hooks. thats why most backpackers are considered more into the underground hiphop scene. you usually find backpackers in inner cities because public transit is cheap, and to get from point a to point b isnt that far of a route.
F**k Backpackers.
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^^ Amen
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crabtwins
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Backpacks are for books. So the backpacker has become almost a putdown because it isn't meaningless banter. It has some meaning and can sometimes be positive. It's just a label. So people can say
f**kbackpackers and feel better about themselves.
f**kbackpackers and feel better about themselves.
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havok...
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wait...im confused...i could never describe a 'backpacker' but, i thought since hes more of a lyrical cat, u guys would be down wit that...so why do u say **** backpackers? give me a real answer, this is a real question
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bluchippa5
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deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
Backpack Rapper73 up, 18 downbackpack rapper-
Person who dislikes Mainstream and Commercial rap a lot.
Person who raps about real life **** that only matters to them and has been experienced, but not dwelled on by everyone. Rarely about pimping hoes/having millions/selling immense ammounts of drugs/murdering random people for no apparent reason or motive, but often do these things in real life. Person who is fake as everyone else while rapping but convinces consumers he uses his head and heart to write not only a pen and meaningless words.(Reference Nas and Kelis fighting prostitutes they didn't pay, Common beating up fans, Lupe's drug dealing label CEO, Kweli being caught in love triangles and getting smacked around by women he was cheating on).
Bsically, a backpacker is a cat that spends most of his/her time traveling through public transit because they can't afford carsa and make excuses like they don't drive to help the eco system. theyre a huge fan of music but mostly stuff they think is hot, don't take the time to listen to wide varieties of hip hop, they just call the stuff they don't like "Mainstream" and say it's not "real hip hop" they have no greater grasp and focus on lyrics, they just think people are more lyrical if they talk about sh*t people who ride the bus and have no money or women talk about. that kills time while their traveling on the bus, subway, etc. they dont have the money to be rolling in luxury cars, etc. so when you come across a backpacker, theyre usually more of a lyrical cat because all they have is a walkman and a grip of cd's in their backpacks. with a walkman, youre usually more focused on words rathers than beats and hooks. thats why most backpackers are considered more into the underground hiphop scene. you usually find backpackers in inner cities because public transit is cheap, and to get from point a to point b isnt that far of a route.
funny as a mf.....damn....this should be nominated for post of the year...no matter ur viewpoint on the matter, this is funny as sh!t...but we all know people are gonna scream HATERADE before they see the comedy in it...
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Eddiemagic5
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so are they looked down upon or wut...
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range
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lmao deranged...sh!t is so true
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I actually respect Real hip hop heads who are sometimes mistaken as "backpackers".
I'm a hip hop head myself. My era was the mid to late 90s. I got a soft spot for anything with a dark murky sound and hard bassline. I also love lyricists Em, Rass Kass, Non Phixion, Yukmouth, Wu, Classic Mobb Deep, Jay, Redman, Canibus, Nas(before he became a backpaker, I'll get back to that) to Tash(alkoholiks), Soul of Mischief, Reef Tha Lost Cauze(JuJu Mob), early Outkast, Xzibit, Goodie Mob(every hip hop head should hear "Still Standing" once in their life, my favorite unmentioned album by far!!!) 90s was my sh*t!!!
What seperates a hip hop head from a "backpacker"(IMO)is a hip hop head will never say anything "is or isn't hip hop". A hip hop head knows the history of rap enough to know it's always been songs about hoes, money, partying, guns, drugs, and excepts there's a demographic for it.
Then you have packpackers, they all run together in little groups thinking they know something everyone else doesn't, supporting wack artists because they're broke and girls don't like them, so the backpackers can relate...I shouldn't say this, but they like guys like(K-Os, KRS-1's newer sh*t, Black Eyed Peas before they got Fergie, Immortal Tech)and have convinced themselves these guys are spitting when someone like Jay Z/Trick Daddy can make Club songs, street songs, and still take the time to cover a whole album of their sh*t in one song like "Renegade"or "Moment of Clarity"/"Thug Holiday" or "America".
Don't get me wrong, there's good empowering music, but these artists usually don't limit themselves to making whole albums whining about how sad our people have become because of the music we listen to.
Good empowering music includes Outkast, Lupe in moderation, Dead Prez, Kweli, Common, Little Brother(love those guys even though we don't have the same views on a few things), Kanye, but since all the above are "mainstream" and women know them and their songs get play on radio and in clubs, true backpackers say they've sold out.
Which leads me to the ultimate backpacker Nas. He convinces everyone "hip hop is dead", coins the phrase as a marketing ploy to sell his record, whines about all the things going on in hip hop when all his classic albums were based around Biches, cars, people hating on him for his money, selling drugs, urban violence, having at one point the biggest charm in Hip hop history(that QB peice was up there with Lil' Jon's "Krunk is Dead"), ect. Of course he convinced people he never said any of that stuff.
Just wanted people to know I wasn't attacking hip hop heads. I'm one myself, but nobody gonna call me ignorant or misinformed, or act like I need to be saved by what their playing in there Cassette walkman when I drive by the Bus Stop with a bad model chick in the passenger seat bumping "crank dat souljah boy" using the Dave Chappelle mind power trick("pop out tittie!!!"), lol.
I'm a hip hop head myself. My era was the mid to late 90s. I got a soft spot for anything with a dark murky sound and hard bassline. I also love lyricists Em, Rass Kass, Non Phixion, Yukmouth, Wu, Classic Mobb Deep, Jay, Redman, Canibus, Nas(before he became a backpaker, I'll get back to that) to Tash(alkoholiks), Soul of Mischief, Reef Tha Lost Cauze(JuJu Mob), early Outkast, Xzibit, Goodie Mob(every hip hop head should hear "Still Standing" once in their life, my favorite unmentioned album by far!!!) 90s was my sh*t!!!
What seperates a hip hop head from a "backpacker"(IMO)is a hip hop head will never say anything "is or isn't hip hop". A hip hop head knows the history of rap enough to know it's always been songs about hoes, money, partying, guns, drugs, and excepts there's a demographic for it.
Then you have packpackers, they all run together in little groups thinking they know something everyone else doesn't, supporting wack artists because they're broke and girls don't like them, so the backpackers can relate...I shouldn't say this, but they like guys like(K-Os, KRS-1's newer sh*t, Black Eyed Peas before they got Fergie, Immortal Tech)and have convinced themselves these guys are spitting when someone like Jay Z/Trick Daddy can make Club songs, street songs, and still take the time to cover a whole album of their sh*t in one song like "Renegade"or "Moment of Clarity"/"Thug Holiday" or "America".
Don't get me wrong, there's good empowering music, but these artists usually don't limit themselves to making whole albums whining about how sad our people have become because of the music we listen to.
Good empowering music includes Outkast, Lupe in moderation, Dead Prez, Kweli, Common, Little Brother(love those guys even though we don't have the same views on a few things), Kanye, but since all the above are "mainstream" and women know them and their songs get play on radio and in clubs, true backpackers say they've sold out.
Which leads me to the ultimate backpacker Nas. He convinces everyone "hip hop is dead", coins the phrase as a marketing ploy to sell his record, whines about all the things going on in hip hop when all his classic albums were based around Biches, cars, people hating on him for his money, selling drugs, urban violence, having at one point the biggest charm in Hip hop history(that QB peice was up there with Lil' Jon's "Krunk is Dead"), ect. Of course he convinced people he never said any of that stuff.
Just wanted people to know I wasn't attacking hip hop heads. I'm one myself, but nobody gonna call me ignorant or misinformed, or act like I need to be saved by what their playing in there Cassette walkman when I drive by the Bus Stop with a bad model chick in the passenger seat bumping "crank dat souljah boy" using the Dave Chappelle mind power trick("pop out tittie!!!"), lol.
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Phuk'd up you make some good points and obviously know a little somethin about the sea/pool/history of emcee's out there. But I don't think of nas as a backpacker. BUT labels and pigeon holes aside when he talked about ******* or hoes there was sooooooo much more going on in his lyrics. To say that cause the word ***** or hoe or motherf'r is in a song makes it the same as all this club friendly, ready made, duplicating, same formula garbage that has been coming out is a stretch (IMO).
I dont have anything against club bangers and simple songs with nice hooks. A hit is a hit. But to dis the whole knowledge rap seen as backpackers who cant afford a car or whatever else seems to be the same as the snobbery you accuse them of. NO?
Hip hop has all kinds of branches these days. ANd I know some hip hop snobs that are like what you say. If it isnt what they like the ish is wack and "their not 'real' emcees" haterism bs. That's why labels are so stupid to me. So whats the label for the simple minded, copy cat track hip hop group? And then when ask who is the best rapper ever? And "the south got it on lock" and all this bs. Whats a backpack rapper? Just an excuse to further divide us and make us feel better than the next man.
I think nas meant to say hip hop as it was in its purest form has become a thing of the past. Its just taken on a new life. So I think what he meant was for him it died. But obviously it can't die.
The history of hip hop has not always been about ******* and hoes. There has always been elements of the ghetto. "broken glass everywhere people pissin on the streets you know they just dont care"
Gangsta rap took us down this road we're on now. Our ghetto's are bigger than ever before and the "lower class" (read -poor) are just singing about whats real to them. So Im glad when someone makes a joint and gets some money and can get some cash. thats what they/we all want. cash..... It's just too bad that tv and media floods the airwaves with pic and vids of mofo's doin the same ish day after day, with the same old tired tactics....throwing stacks of money at strippers, ice grills, and *******. I love seein the ******* though dont we all? Thats the thing we love it and we keep gettin it but for social conscious people we see the power of hip hop and wish it helped uplift the people more. But they get labeled as sissified backpackers and dont get no airplay. Keep it gangsta and with knowledge thats what i like. No preachin.
I think if anything backpackers as i understand the term take hip hop more as an intellectual artform than others, maybe im wrong.
flame on y'all
I dont have anything against club bangers and simple songs with nice hooks. A hit is a hit. But to dis the whole knowledge rap seen as backpackers who cant afford a car or whatever else seems to be the same as the snobbery you accuse them of. NO?
Hip hop has all kinds of branches these days. ANd I know some hip hop snobs that are like what you say. If it isnt what they like the ish is wack and "their not 'real' emcees" haterism bs. That's why labels are so stupid to me. So whats the label for the simple minded, copy cat track hip hop group? And then when ask who is the best rapper ever? And "the south got it on lock" and all this bs. Whats a backpack rapper? Just an excuse to further divide us and make us feel better than the next man.
I think nas meant to say hip hop as it was in its purest form has become a thing of the past. Its just taken on a new life. So I think what he meant was for him it died. But obviously it can't die.
The history of hip hop has not always been about ******* and hoes. There has always been elements of the ghetto. "broken glass everywhere people pissin on the streets you know they just dont care"
Gangsta rap took us down this road we're on now. Our ghetto's are bigger than ever before and the "lower class" (read -poor) are just singing about whats real to them. So Im glad when someone makes a joint and gets some money and can get some cash. thats what they/we all want. cash..... It's just too bad that tv and media floods the airwaves with pic and vids of mofo's doin the same ish day after day, with the same old tired tactics....throwing stacks of money at strippers, ice grills, and *******. I love seein the ******* though dont we all? Thats the thing we love it and we keep gettin it but for social conscious people we see the power of hip hop and wish it helped uplift the people more. But they get labeled as sissified backpackers and dont get no airplay. Keep it gangsta and with knowledge thats what i like. No preachin.
I think if anything backpackers as i understand the term take hip hop more as an intellectual artform than others, maybe im wrong.
flame on y'all
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mrnhc
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Kingg Rell said:Backpack Rapper
Person who dislikes Mainstream and Commercial rap a lot.
Person who raps about real life **** that matters and has experienced, rarely about pimping hoes/having millions/selling immense ammounts of drugs/murdering random people for no apparent reason or motive.Person who is true to himself while rapping and uses his head and heart to write not only a pen and meaningless words.
Bsically, a backpacker is a cat that spends most of his/her time traveling through public transit. theyre a huge fan of music but mostly on a lyrically tip because they have a greater grasp and focus on lyrics that kills time while their traveling on the bus, subway, etc. they dont have the money to be rolling in luxury cars, etc. so when you come across a backpacker, theyre usually more of a lyrical cat because all they have is a walkman and a grip of cd's in their backpacks. with a walkman, youre usually more focused on words rathers than beats and hooks. thats why most backpackers are considered more into the underground hiphop scene where artist's are more about lyrics. you usually find backpackers in inner cities because public transit is cheap, and to get from point a to point b isnt that far of a route.
LOL who the hell still walks around with a cd player now days....
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Well, he ain't shlt unless he is rockin one of these:
. I keep it real son, real old school... forget your lil MP3 players, I be rockin the burly ass CD spinners.
I do...mrnhc said:
. I keep it real son, real old school... forget your lil MP3 players, I be rockin the burly ass CD spinners.
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nwo504
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most backpack rappers constantly diss mainstream rap. that seems to be all they rap about in most cases (little brother). mainly the ones who never step in a club so they diss club records.
bluchippa5
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deranged!!!! how aggravated you think people would get if I could make that long azz quote my sig....Mano or hitz would probably have to ban me for a long azz sig like that!!!!
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Nas Songs that are "club friendly, ready made, duplicating, same formula garbage"crabtwins said:
"Shorty" feat. Ginuwine - He uses an at the time big phrase "Shawty!!!" and hops on a song with one of the biggest RnB singers at the time to explain he'll let a girl wear his chain, and "flaunt with his bling", but in return she owes him something to later be discussed.
"Oochie Wally" - No reason to explain beyong the hook..."He really realy really F**ked my p***y, he really really really turned me out"
"Quick to Backdown" - Does anyone even remember this crap? He got Lil Jon to produce it and do the chorus because he was big at the time.
"Firm Biz" feat. Dawn(envogue) - Had to have a pop single for his first song off the firm album, right? That sh*t was wack than a muhf**ka!!! They was trying to be Jr. Mafia and sh*t. Had Foxy's 15-16 year old azz naked covered in Money. That's probly what got R.Kelly interested in youngsters, Lol.
Honorable Mention - "Hate Me Now Video" - Although the song was hot, in the video he appears in a now infamous "Puffy trademark shiny suit" hopping out of a bentley covered in Ice, surrounded by biches drinking Chryssy and Moet. Even has the scene when he's walking away and the car behind him explodes.
Guess I was enough of a Nas fan to be dissappointed enough when he did these that they were the 1st things that popped in my mind when he tried to speak on others doing the same.
I don't dislike anyone being true to themselves true their music. If Souljah Boy really does "crank that robocop, that superman that oooooh!"(which he does), more power to him he's making music from his view, from his heart, from his perception. That makes him a real MC.
If you don't live it, why rap about it? Whether it's saying you bust guns when you don't, or saying you're against the underdevelopment of our people when your records are funded by drug organizations, or saying your nice and other rappers aren't when your style is so outdated that Nelly beats you in a battle. Either way, you fake in my eyes, and irrelevant.
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i think emcees getting mad about it because they take the "art form" and "dumb it down" for the masses to just sell a dollar...
**** if i came up with the most lyrical song on earth and all the underground cats and **** is slappin it and **** but not one radio will spin it id be mad too...
but i got what your sayin funk'd lol there are alot of cats who think theyre raps is HELLA hot and think they got some formula we dont know about..but i really dont think id call them backpackers...
i just call them fags...lol
**** if i came up with the most lyrical song on earth and all the underground cats and **** is slappin it and **** but not one radio will spin it id be mad too...
but i got what your sayin funk'd lol there are alot of cats who think theyre raps is HELLA hot and think they got some formula we dont know about..but i really dont think id call them backpackers...
i just call them fags...lol
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Bud Bunner
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There is nothing wrong with enjoying the lyrical side of things more, but real music fans will respect the commercial side aswell.
you can write about bling,hoes,weed and cars...but do it in a more lyrical way
Theres also nothing wrong with puttin yourself in someone elses shoes for a verse.
Ive wrote about kids in iraq, am i one? ive wrote evil ****, im not evil
its all concepts, its writing...you can write about things that are going on in the world doesnt have to be goin on in your world.
you can write about bling,hoes,weed and cars...but do it in a more lyrical way
Theres also nothing wrong with puttin yourself in someone elses shoes for a verse.
Ive wrote about kids in iraq, am i one? ive wrote evil ****, im not evil
its all concepts, its writing...you can write about things that are going on in the world doesnt have to be goin on in your world.
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Very true when you're talking about songs like "I gave you power" where Nas spoke as if he was a gun, or even Eminem's songs about killing his wife, but that's completely different than fabricating your personality and beliefs to sell a record.Bud Bunner said:
There is an ammount of fantasy to music, but there is a bold line between storytelling and lying.
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does anyone else think pharrell from the neptunes is a packback rapper?