Boi-1da showing how he made Drake's OVER

[Aykey]

hahaha what a joke. how do u ppl still not see that this guy is is the biggest fraud in the industry????? so basically he looped up someones amazing composition layered drums over it and got full credit for it.

In case you didn't notice. Hip hop works like this.
People get credit for shit they didn't do. That's hip hop...

And GTFOH with that wiki quote. Even if he got credit for it...nobody knows who Al Khaaliq is. Shit i didn't know. They just place boi-1da's name all over the spot. Nobody cares about the writers that make it all happen. That's what's wrong.

I can dig boi-1das work but judging by that video, this dude al khaaliq could have done the arrangement all by his own. I don't see how they would need boi-1da hands on it lol. The sample was already sounding crazy in the first place. All boi-1da did is lay down some drums.

And if you don't realize this you're not being rational at all. That's why i start to question todays hip hop...people are just on some lazy shit nowadays. This video is proof.

Hip hop is becoming one lazy ass rip off festival.

Look at will.i.am. I had so much respect for this dude but once he decided to rip off people he worked with before, just because of pure lazyness, i lost all the respect that was left. This ain't hip hop anymore...this ain't cool. But hip hop heads don't care cuz they wanna be like him SMH.

 

[YOUNG TEX]

^^^yeah but how you know if al khaaliq even wanted to be in the spotlight for the record. I don't know if he did or didn't either but some people would rather play the chad role and just get paid then be pharrell with all the spotlight.

 

[most_underrated]

i'm angry cuz the talented producers that deserve to be getting credit for what they did are not and he's getting all the props and $ that he is not deserving of. I know that this happens a lot in this shady ass industry but ive nvr seen it this extreme before. i know sum ppl that have worked wit him n they all feel like they just need to play the industry game if they ever wanna make it newhere in music. cuz boi1da needs to have his handz one everything that gets to drake.

thats why al-khaaliq sent that shit to boi1da cuz he doesnt have access to drake like boi1da does so the only way is to go thru him and he has to be involved he a tyrant. think of all the best boi1da beats they all produced with sumone and they barely got credit. did u know tht on uptown he only did the drums? it was co-produced by sumone frm northern profit but i doubt ud know that cuz that producer barely got any credit for it. did u know that was the same case for up all night and seduction..9am in dallas...its been a pleasure, keri hilson buyou? bet u didnt know that. theres a gigantic diff btwn the beats he does himself n with others n over is the biggest example of that. compare that to the Lloyd banks eminem where i'm at song can u see the diff? thts a beat he prolly did alone. look at all the beats on drakes album he didnt do ne of them himself. miss me would be a trash beat if 40 didnt do all that amazingness on the hook. im hating on this cat hard but i dont care cuz it annoys me that ppl are getting shafted for their credit n are stuck as bottom feeders doing the work that takes real talent n ppl have a perception of this cat that hes sumthin much greater than he actually is.

pete marriot said in another thread tht nowadays alot of times when u see additional production by it means a real producer had to come in n clean up n do the stuff that requires actual talent. that happens for all of boi1das good beats except he gets all the credit for it. n no one wants to speak up for fear of ruining their chances of making it in music

 

[Aybii]

smhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[ThePusificationOfMen]

hahaha what a joke. how do u ppl still not see that this guy is is the biggest fraud in the industry????? so basically he looped up someones amazing composition layered drums over it and got full credit for it. everyone hailing this cat up for a beat that all he did was layer snares over and add 1 bass note...gotta be kidding me. and no he doesn't get dude to make him this stuff...the guy just does it and sends it to him..cuz well he's "on" like deranged put it long time ago so it's an opportunity for that cat.

lol this shit just fell in this clowns lap and same with everything else he's dun. name me what you think his best beat is and i bet you it was produced with someone else where they did the stuff that actually takes talent. u realize on No Afraid all he did was the DRUMS right? and got full credit for it. 2 other ppl produced that song with him and alotta other his better stuff dont believe dat then google it. anytime a beats out ppl praise him for it when it was other ppl that did the real work on it. this monkey has no talent n knows nothin abt music it's a joke how the industry co signs him

lmao well 1st off that wiki is wrong cuz boi-1da had NOTHING to do with writing the song. nothing at ALL. this cat is not capable of song-writing whatsoever n i'm pretty sure he'll even admit to that himself.. if he ain't have these beats where he keeps getting credit he doesn't deserve homie would prolly be stocking shelves cuz he's not sharpest tool in the shed to say the least.

n u know what i mean. on all the blogs the majority of them only said prod by boi-1da when the song dropped. i remember someone even had to request one of the nahright bloggers to put al khaaliq's name in the over post for credit cuz it only said boi 1da prolly one of dudes friends or fam or somethin. if u ask around the industry or ppl that follow hip hop music who produced over they will all say boi-1da. when it should be the other way around, cuz i'm pretty most of you in this section possess enough skill to add simple drums over a loop and could have also made Over if u had a composition like that just handed over to u no pun intended.

i'm angry cuz the talented producers that deserve to be getting credit for what they did are not and he's getting all the props and $ that he is not deserving of. I know that this happens a lot in this shady ass industry but ive nvr seen it this extreme before. i know sum ppl that have worked wit him n they all feel like they just need to play the industry game if they ever wanna make it newhere in music. cuz boi1da needs to have his handz one everything that gets to drake.

thats why al-khaaliq sent that shit to boi1da cuz he doesnt have access to drake like boi1da does so the only way is to go thru him and he has to be involved he a tyrant. think of all the best boi1da beats they all produced with sumone and they barely got credit. did u know tht on uptown he only did the drums? it was co-produced by sumone frm northern profit but i doubt ud know that cuz that producer barely got any credit for it. did u know that was the same case for up all night and seduction..9am in dallas...its been a pleasure, keri hilson buyou? bet u didnt know that. theres a gigantic diff btwn the beats he does himself n with others n over is the biggest example of that. compare that to the Lloyd banks eminem where i'm at song can u see the diff? thts a beat he prolly did alone. look at all the beats on drakes album he didnt do ne of them himself. miss me would be a trash beat if 40 didnt do all that amazingness on the hook. im hating on this cat hard but i dont care cuz it annoys me that ppl are getting shafted for their credit n are stuck as bottom feeders doing the work that takes real talent n ppl have a perception of this cat that hes sumthin much greater than he actually is.

pete marriot said in another thread tht nowadays alot of times when u see additional production by it means a real producer had to come in n clean up n do the stuff that requires actual talent. that happens for all of boi1das good beats except he gets all the credit for it. n no one wants to speak up for fear of ruining their chances of making it in music

^^^^^^^^ strong symptoms of T.P.O.M.

 

[kahliljn]

i'm angry cuz the talented producers that deserve to be getting credit for what they did are not and he's getting all the props and $ that he is not deserving of. I know that this happens a lot in this shady ass industry but ive nvr seen it this extreme before. i know sum ppl that have worked wit him n they all feel like they just need to play the industry game if they ever wanna make it newhere in music. cuz boi1da needs to have his handz one everything that gets to drake.

thats why al-khaaliq sent that shit to boi1da cuz he doesnt have access to drake like boi1da does so the only way is to go thru him and he has to be involved he a tyrant. think of all the best boi1da beats they all produced with sumone and they barely got credit. did u know tht on uptown he only did the drums? it was co-produced by sumone frm northern profit but i doubt ud know that cuz that producer barely got any credit for it. did u know that was the same case for up all night and seduction..9am in dallas...its been a pleasure, keri hilson buyou? bet u didnt know that. theres a gigantic diff btwn the beats he does himself n with others n over is the biggest example of that. compare that to the Lloyd banks eminem where i'm at song can u see the diff? thts a beat he prolly did alone. look at all the beats on drakes album he didnt do ne of them himself. miss me would be a trash beat if 40 didnt do all that amazingness on the hook. im hating on this cat hard but i dont care cuz it annoys me that ppl are getting shafted for their credit n are stuck as bottom feeders doing the work that takes real talent n ppl have a perception of this cat that hes sumthin much greater than he actually is.

pete marriot said in another thread tht nowadays alot of times when u see additional production by it means a real producer had to come in n clean up n do the stuff that requires actual talent. that happens for all of boi1das good beats except he gets all the credit for it. n no one wants to speak up for fear of ruining their chances of making it in music

Aint nobody complaining but you. Those other producers who you say aren't getting enough credit are heading to the bank. I cant get to Drake either and if boi 1da wants to pay me for a partial beat Im all for it.

money>>>bullshyt

 

[Spektor]

but how dio u actually know Boi Rida is getting paid more than the actual composer? The actual Composer could be getting paid more!

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Loo k at Dr DCre, he didnt make any melodiues on 2001 Chronic, Scott Storch did! Dre just layed the drums!

 

[SermStyle]

LOL, I thought he sounded slightly like an angry ex

hah he does sound like that...

he does know hes on a hip-hop forum where 90% of the records are made like this...

i bet hes a kanye fan tho... yet bashes bio1da... :s

 

[Ty baby]

Or maybe Al-kaaliqu just didnt no how to arrange into a hip hop song so he reached out to someone like Boi-1 da

 

[StreetSlang]

You do know that Boi 1Da before he got put on won "Battle of the Beatmakers" up here in Toronto for like four years straight?

 

[Dbkr]

lol my thread got derailed. So can anyone tell me what instruments were used in Over or what?

 

[shintoshio]

Hellz yes.

He uses the exact same process as me,

cool edit and fl studio ftw mutha****as !!!!!!!!!!
And its crazy that it was gonna be a jeezy track.
Prolly wouldnt have been as big though, but his version sounded decent

question though>>>>

@ around 2:50 he was talkin bout his "favorite nob" called amp.
Where is the amplify nob at ??? And was he talkin bout in fl studio or cool edit??

I just use the audio clip slicer lol

 

[Desmond *A*]

i'm angry cuz the talented producers that deserve to be getting credit for what they did are not and he's getting all the props and $ that he is not deserving of. I know that this happens a lot in this shady ass industry but ive nvr seen it this extreme before. i know sum ppl that have worked wit him n they all feel like they just need to play the industry game if they ever wanna make it newhere in music. cuz boi1da needs to have his handz one everything that gets to drake.

thats why al-khaaliq sent that shit to boi1da cuz he doesnt have access to drake like boi1da does so the only way is to go thru him and he has to be involved he a tyrant. think of all the best boi1da beats they all produced with sumone and they barely got credit. did u know tht on uptown he only did the drums? it was co-produced by sumone frm northern profit but i doubt ud know that cuz that producer barely got any credit for it. did u know that was the same case for up all night and seduction..9am in dallas...its been a pleasure, keri hilson buyou? bet u didnt know that. theres a gigantic diff btwn the beats he does himself n with others n over is the biggest example of that. compare that to the Lloyd banks eminem where i'm at song can u see the diff? thts a beat he prolly did alone. look at all the beats on drakes album he didnt do ne of them himself. miss me would be a trash beat if 40 didnt do all that amazingness on the hook. im hating on this cat hard but i dont care cuz it annoys me that ppl are getting shafted for their credit n are stuck as bottom feeders doing the work that takes real talent n ppl have a perception of this cat that hes sumthin much greater than he actually is.

pete marriot said in another thread tht nowadays alot of times when u see additional production by it means a real producer had to come in n clean up n do the stuff that requires actual talent. that happens for all of boi1das good beats except he gets all the credit for it. n no one wants to speak up for fear of ruining their chances of making it in music

 

[Aykey]

Or maybe Al-kaaliqu just didnt no how to arrange into a hip hop song so he reached out to someone like Boi-1 da

Did you even watch the vid?

The sample was already sounding like the final version in the first place lol. Its not like he did some crazy re-arrangement that nobody could have thought of.

Its obvious Al-kaaliqu did all the work. That's the side of hip hop i can't stand at all. Even in the most obvious cases, people will snatch the credit where they can and don't say shit till somebody finds out.

Yea he got mentioned but its still boi-1da getting all the spotlight for unexplainable reasons. And you see this shit quite a lot in this genre.

Sometimes i feel like hip hop is so far away from integrity and ethics its not even funny anymore. And people don't wanna admit cuz apparently you lose your backbone as soon as that first paycheck rolls in.

Seriously i bet hip hop is the only genre you see this happening so often. Somehow the term "grinding hard" turned into "snatch credit, do everything to cover it up, act stupid about it, get money fast". Not saying boi-1da is doing this but we all know plenty of storys where such ****ery happenend...the thing is nobody wants to talk about it...and then new people in the game wonder why they're getting played...sure you get played if nobody is willing to address this topic. Its not the player its the game that is so ****ed up.

Backstabber mentality for real.

And don't quote me and come with silly shit like "only the strongest can survive in this game, it ain't for everybody". Being strong and outdoing your competition and losing your morality over some green paper are two completely different things. "Making it" in this game doesn't mean you need to backstab your oopponent to win his spot...again different thing. Its just that a lot of people in hip hop get this shit mixed up.

90% of the records are made like this...

Still doesn't change the fact that there is a lot of this type of ****ery going on in hip hop. And its because of peoples mindset thinking its alright to "snatch" credit and put your own name on the record when infact, you didn't do shit except for the ****ing snare roll. Again i don't talk about boi-1da here but you see this quite often.

Sometimes hip hop heads are just on some delusional bubble world shit for real. Its like with timbo back then...everybody outside of hip hop realized that all dude was doing is sample a ethnic loop from some unknown act and take all the credit for it. No work nothing...just straight up jack that shit. Still...hip hop heads didn't know what they all where talking about...after all thats "hip hop" right?

"yes he did take the samples without crediting them, but he put his own twist on it!". I love this line lol.

Its the mindset of todays hip hop people that make this ****ery happen. Dudes got no respect for the art anymore.

 

[Desmond *A*]

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hah he does sound like that...

he does know hes on a hip-hop forum where 90% of the records are made like this...

i bet hes a kanye fan tho... yet bashes bio1da... :s

Man yeezy has some of THE most talented producers and instrumentalists working under him.

 

[Issues]

So..umm...he didn't produce Bill Gates? He just did the drums? =/ wtf.

 

[YOUNG TEX]

Lmao where on the internet is there anything about Al-khaaliq himself complaining that Boi 1da is stole the spotlight or he ain't get proper credit? His name is in the CD booklet where it really matters. Truth be told I know a lot of you producers would be pissed if your name was all over the internet and it ain't even in the Cd booklet. Dudes stay complaining on this site when they ain't even apart of the situation you would think they where Al himself lol..

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So..umm...he didn't produce Bill Gates? He just did the drums? =/ wtf.

It was co produced by Matthew Burnett as for who did what unless either one of them comes out or somebody who was actually there while the beat was made comes out and says something nobody will know but I haven't seen Brunett complaining about anything...

 

[YungLotto540]

So sampling is bad now...

I would think that having a guy send you sample quality shit for u to flip that no one else in the world has would be a dream come true for a producer...
I guess we just gotta turn it down huh

On another note since when did how difficult it was to make a beat matter?
He did somethin that nobody else has done and that shit was hot.
The dude told him to **** wit it so he did and made a badass track and somehow he's "shady?"
**** that shit

 

[kahliljn]

Seriously i bet hip hop is the only genre you see this happening so often. Somehow the term "grinding hard" turned into "snatch credit, do everything to cover it up, act stupid about it, get money fast". Not saying boi-1da is doing this but we all know plenty of storys where such ****ery happenend...the thing is nobody wants to talk about it...and then new people in the game wonder why they're getting played...sure you get played if nobody is willing to address this topic. Its not the player its the game that is so ****ed up.

Backstabber mentality for real.

And don't quote me and come with silly shit like "only the strongest can survive in this game, it ain't for everybody". Being strong and outdoing your competition and losing your morality over some green paper are two completely different things. "Making it" in this game doesn't mean you need to backstab your oopponent to win his spot...again different thing. Its just that a lot of people in hip hop get this shit mixed up.



Still doesn't change the fact that there is a lot of this type of ****ery going on in hip hop. And its because of peoples mindset thinking its alright to "snatch" credit and put your own name on the record when infact, you didn't do shit except for the ****ing snare roll. Again i don't talk about boi-1da here but you see this quite often.

This is all your opinion. IMO you dont even have a valid argument just because your complaining and the guys who helped make the beats aren't saying shyt except $$$. Your not daddy they're big boys if theres a problem they can speak for themselves.

Nobodies backstabbing anybody..lol..thats a silly notion. If anything Boi 1da reaching out to other producers is creating more unity amongst producers in hip hop. But I aint mad at you theres always someone whos going to find something negative in everything. People like you just provide the right balance of idiocracy to the table.

Go find one producer who Boi 1da works with who has spoken against him or feels he didn't get credit for his work

 

[Coop.]

hahaha what a joke. how do u ppl still not see that this guy is is the biggest fraud in the industry????? so basically he looped up someones amazing composition layered drums over it and got full credit for it. everyone hailing this cat up for a beat that all he did was layer snares over and add 1 bass note...gotta be kidding me. and no he doesn't get dude to make him this stuff...the guy just does it and sends it to him..cuz well he's "on" like deranged put it long time ago so it's an opportunity for that cat.

lol this shit just fell in this clowns lap and same with everything else he's dun. name me what you think his best beat is and i bet you it was produced with someone else where they did the stuff that actually takes talent. u realize on No Afraid all he did was the DRUMS right? and got full credit for it. 2 other ppl produced that song with him and alotta other his better stuff dont believe dat then google it. anytime a beats out ppl praise him for it when it was other ppl that did the real work on it. this monkey has no talent n knows nothin abt music it's a joke how the industry co signs him

I've watched 1da make beats just as good if not better than those you named by himself in his basement when he was nobody so to say he's taking all the credit is just stupid. Ask anybody that's worked with 1da and they have no complaints. Al isn't complaining. Matt who did Seduction and Not Afraid with 1da isn't complaining.

Don't make assumptions when you have no idea behind what's actually going on.