Devil in a New Dress Sample here

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Would you believe Bink! actually lost to this beat last year?

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Damn, such a simple sample but such a dope beat

Thanks for the find by the way
 
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Thanks for Sharing man.

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now its interesting to note... how he choses to put those two parts of the sample together.... there are so many combinations...save the aswer re talent, bxjaze lol
 
i consider great because its not obvious or simple how he could have put it together, not just cause of the final output. imho
 
alwayzambitious said:
i consider great because its not obvious or simple how he could have put it together, not just cause of the final output. imho
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And i think that's the problem today. People tend to wanna judge by THEIR standard of what kinda work needs to be put into a track. The point is, sometimes a couple of "this and that" is all it needs to bring something out. MANY times, it's how a sample may be processed or treated that brings the magic out, and not so much the arrangement. Some of hip hops illest beats are just simple loops (Mad Izm, Mass Appeal, The Creator, Bring the Pain, Criminology) yet today it's like people don't wanna give respect to a sampled track unless it's chopped 50 million times.


But ever notice 99% of the cats who do that end up with tracks that sound like crap? Rather than chop a record up a million times and trying to rearrange it all types of crazy ways just to meet the "standard" of what cats say they need to respect your work, how bout honing your TALENT and just going with what your ear tells you? This is of course assuming you have an ear to begin with because 9 times out of 10 when dudes hear a track and get on that "oh i could do that, that shit is easy" nonsense, put 'em to the test and I guarantee it'll sound NOTHING like the track they're tryin to emulate. Don't believe me? Just search youtube. The tweaking and processing and even chop techniques it takes to bring a sampled track out, ESPECIALLY a looped one, isn't something everyone has. and if you need proof, my boy has a sound file where he played this sample and slowly sped it up until he got to the tune that it used Devil In a Blue Dress then mixed the song right in, yet you can hear a wholllle difference if you listen. I'm willing to bet most dudes on here could arrange the sample the same way and even take Bink!'s drum kit......and STILL fail at recreating it.

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alwayzambitious said:
Thanks for Sharing man.

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now its interesting to note... how he choses to put those two parts of the sample together.... there are so many combinations...save the aswer re talent, bxjaze lol
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and you're welcome :cheers:

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NavieD said:
Damn, such a simple sample but such a dope beat

Thanks for the find by the way
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no prob dude.

thanks for thanking
 
BxJaze said:
And i think that's the problem today. People tend to wanna judge by THEIR standard of what kinda work needs to be put into a track. The point is, sometimes a couple of "this and that" is all it needs to bring something out. MANY times, it's how a sample may be processed or treated that brings the magic out, and not so much the arrangement. Some of hip hops illest beats are just simple loops (Mad Izm, Mass Appeal, The Creator, Bring the Pain, Criminology) yet today it's like people don't wanna give respect to a sampled track unless it's chopped 50 million times.
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My friend, I'm with you more than you may think, whether someone chops into a million pieces is not what I said makes Devil dope and more importantly is not what I think makes a great track.

I do agree, the best songs are simple loops. Devil in a blue dress, is two distinctively different chops looped thru ought whole song. In a sense its simple. But I was making a point about the number of choices of chop he had to glue together and knowing which to use.

Since you seem to be on a roll criticizing,that's cool i was misunderstood but I can state where I agree w/ your above points.
 
I just copped some Smokey vinyls recently... Kanye's record is beautiful...
 
Ego Dot is it beautiful, I recently copped some of his albums too. That's why when folks say its a simple, tis is true.. But maybe I'm odeeign but the way he brings the phrase is something I haven't heart in a minute.

If anything it makes me relisten to some samples I passed on before.
 
alwayzambitious said:
My friend, I'm with you more than you may think, whether someone chops into a million pieces is not what I said makes Devil dope and more importantly is not what I think makes a great track.

I do agree, the best songs are simple loops. Devil in a blue dress, is two distinctively different chops looped thru ought whole song. In a sense its simple. But I was making a point about the number of choices of chop he had to glue together and knowing which to use.

Since you seem to be on a roll criticizing,that's cool i was misunderstood but I can state where I agree w/ your above points.
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I wasn't criticizing, moreso just stating my perspective. I wasn't even referring to you when i was speaking of the people who DO criticize beats as "not having enough chops" and all that, i was just using your statement to kick off me making the points i was.

yessir

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EgO DoT said:
I just copped some Smokey vinyls recently... Kanye's record is beautiful...
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Jay-Z "1900-HUSTLER," "You, Me, Him, and Her"

Freeway "All My Life"

Jay-Z "The Ruler's Back"

U-God "Bizarre"

Freeway "Rolling Down the Freeway"


All Bink songs. He's got a good energy to his tracks, and songs like 1900-HUSTLER and All My Life are when I used to be like "yep, Just Blaze got a lil problem on his hands" lol. Even with his slower paced beats like Rolling Down the Freeway and now Devil in a New Dress, he still does his thing.
 
alwayzambitious said:
see my peoples i told yall..

genius...

peep the second question...thats what makes the song dope ... as i said before.. its not a straight loop.. its several peices of the song put together to sound that way...binkdog got talent...

http://www.abcdrduson.com/blog/2010/09/interview-express-avec-bink/2/
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I already knew that, but so many so-called "producers" both on and off this site swear anything's a loop if THEIR ears can't hear chops. Listening to the beat even without knowing the sample tells you how it's constructed. The funnier thing is, the day the song came out, i had a million people calling me asking what the sample was. I had no clue at the time. Even my top digger didn't know. I was playing the song as I was leaving work and this dude (well into his 40's) ran up to my truck like "who singing there in the background, Smokey?" i said "i dunno im tryin to find out" he said "hell yeah that's smokey man!" Through Smokey's name to my digger and sure enough he came back minutes later with the sample.
 
bxjaze said:
i already knew that, but so many so-called "producers" both on and off this site swear anything's a loop if their ears can't hear chops. Listening to the beat even without knowing the sample tells you how it's constructed. The funnier thing is, the day the song came out, i had a million people calling me asking what the sample was. I had no clue at the time. Even my top digger didn't know. I was playing the song as i was leaving work and this dude (well into his 40's) ran up to my truck like "who singing there in the background, smokey?" i said "i dunno im tryin to find out" he said "hell yeah that's smokey man!" through smokey's name to my digger and sure enough he came back minutes later with the sample.
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dope story bxjaze!
 
BxJaze said:
I already knew that, but so many so-called "producers" both on and off this site swear anything's a loop if THEIR ears can't hear chops. Listening to the beat even without knowing the sample tells you how it's constructed. The funnier thing is, the day the song came out, i had a million people calling me asking what the sample was. I had no clue at the time. Even my top digger didn't know. I was playing the song as I was leaving work and this dude (well into his 40's) ran up to my truck like "who singing there in the background, Smokey?" i said "i dunno im tryin to find out" he said "hell yeah that's smokey man!" Through Smokey's name to my digger and sure enough he came back minutes later with the sample.
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i wish ppl would roll up on my car askin me questions like that... mostly i get either the "thats not whats poppin n the streets" look or i get the 'rap is crap' look lol
 
BxJaze said:
He's got a good energy to his tracks, and songs like 1900-HUSTLER and All My Life are when I used to be like "yep, Just Blaze got a lil problem on his hands" lol.
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Bink was doing that style way before Just Blaze did it..
 
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