ensoniq eps 16 plus??

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Im new to hardware, been researching ideas for my first piece. I want to do hiphop beats, and I read an interview with EL-P (also my favorite producer), and they listed his setup and he lives and dies by his eps 16 plus. Ive read alot of good things on the board about it and the ones I find on ebay are right around my price range. Would this be a good investment for a first piece?
 
Great keyboard sampler, I still use mine as a master. Can only be expanded to 2 meg so make sure you have it fully expanded and , preferably, with scsi. Great filters and a doddle to use. Loads of third party sounds for it and some good user groups as well.
Make sure to test the unit thoroughly.
 
Hes a producer and owner of Definitive Jux records. underground hiphop basically.
 
I just sold my EPS-16+ maxed ram, flash rom, and scsi for $400 canadian. I regret it big time. That is an amazing machine...Simple, and sounds so dope.


kut
 
Yeah. The EPS 16+ is a dope ole skool instrument. Due to its small sample memory limit, it will make you work. It's got a lot of loyal users and always had 3rd party support too. If you add it to another instrument, you've got a powerful tool. Makes me think of the Roland W30, but much, much cleaner.

Peace.
 
i have an eps 16 plus and a mpc 1000 and its the perfect setup for me because i make all of my drum patterns on the mpc and kill samples on the eps..

great investment for the price i say

peace!
 
EL-P uses one ? hehe cool :)

anyway, the EPS16+ was my first smapler/keyboard. and it sounds amazing for hiphop and derrived styles.

i had mine for a year and quickly bought the ASR-10 the day it hit the stores in Canada, so i ran both linked together.

if what you want is fat sounding converters, that's what you get with the EPS/ASR.

and the sequencer is what i used for close to 10 years before i even looked at a computer sequencer. i even had an MPC with that kit and still only used it as a drum sampler.
 
does anyone here know the major difference between the ensoniq eps and the ensoniq eps 16 (or plus?). scanning ebay for these produces some weird results, but all i can say is i'm looking for an affordable old-school keyboard sampler (not a rackmount)...so anyone in the mood to educate, hook up the knowledge.

1ne

-lo e-
 
ensoniq is a rare company. the newer the gear, the more unstable. the eps was solid, eps 16 good, asr 10 was nice but unreliable. some folks have no probs, others cant keepem from crashin. you wont know what you get till you got it. the asr x series was seriously ****ty.

my general ensoniq rule is to go for the older stuff. the original eps is the one for me. not much sample time on it, but if you are creative you can make some killer stuff on it. heres a link to some stuff that was done with ONLY the original EPS. nothing midi'ed up, no other samplers.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/wri...94135&bandnamesave=maddwestpresentsthundacats
 
Who is responsible for bringing this thread back from the dead???
 
if you get the asr x i HIGHLY suggest using it as a sound module/sampler and not for the sequencer. the sequencer has HORRIBLE timing. the fx are the **** though.
 
Just wanted to resuscitate this thread, seeing as how I finally did invest in an eps 16+ (but DAMN I should've waited till i found one with the SCSI pre-installed). This machine has gotta be the top of the old school line. I've literally been using it for a few months, maybe only 2 months devotedly, and i've created some real gems with it. And all the talk you hear about it crashing, well...

It did it to me the other day for the first time, I swear I thought it was some 2001:A Space Odyssey HAL ****. It blinked random commands and kept trying to read the disk drive. This was the day I pushed it to remain on for six hours without a break, so i guess i deserved that. The best part was that the ****up only lasted about five or ten minutes, and then everything went back to normal, i was able to save my sequences and turn it off for a well-earned break. You could probably make a grilled cheese sandwich off the back of this thing when it gets to that point.

I've been reading the ASR-10 manual to try and get the most out of this sampler, and I'm learning a little more each day. I highly reccommend it to anyone, it's a little daunting at first I think but the learning curve is well balanced. When I upload some of my current projects I'll post links here.

I completely understand why El-P still uses this thing.

Anybody got tips on where to find a SCSI upgrade for less than a buck fifty? I want to do it, but i still have ambitions to get an MPC 60 someday...I'd probably regret feeding big money into this dependable relic instead of saving up for the almighty MPC.

As usual, big props go out to you posters on this board, you helped me come to my EPS-16+ decision and it was probably the best I could've chosen for my money.

1ne!

-lo e-
 
hey MLP

Yea... i brought this back from the dead, but I heard that Cops and Corvettes song and I loved it. You made that beat?? It's got that lil bit of soul and its a real laid back track. Who's rapping?

Anyway, nice job... I was really feelin it.

Oh by the way, would you mind telling me where you got your bass sounds (or any other patches) for your ensoniq??? I assume the same can be used for the asr-10? thanks
 
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damn, you knocked the dust offa this thread! i wish i produced that joint. that is done by aceha. search soundclick.com for a-list productions for a little of what he's up to now. ace got skills. if you dig Star Wars, give the whole summer of 77 a listen. its a direct parallel to the original three Star Wars flicks.
 
mlp said:
ensoniq is a rare company. the newer the gear, the more unstable. the eps was solid, eps 16 good, asr 10 was nice but unreliable. some folks have no probs, others cant keepem from crashin. you wont know what you get till you got it. the asr x series was seriously ****ty.

my general ensoniq rule is to go for the older stuff. the original eps is the one for me. not much sample time on it, but if you are creative you can make some killer stuff on it. heres a link to some stuff that was done with ONLY the original EPS. nothing midi'ed up, no other samplers.

Hah. Maybe it is just because you happened to have old EPS why you think so?

I have had EPS16+, (many, both rack and kb models) ASR10 (two of them) ASR-X, ESQ-1, DP4 and DP4+.

And in my experience Ensoniq products developed much during the years -though there was some mistakes made too.

At first, 16+ keyboard that i bought 1996 had keyboard calibration errors -until i resoldered something, i dont remember anymore if it was cable or what.
Also floppy disks (or drive) were unreliable from time to time.
EPS16+ makes unwanted snaps and pops when trying to use low bass sounds. I always had to try to cover them with envelopes with moderate success.

-Good sides of EPS16+ is that is has good fx processor which Original EPS didnt have.. and it can load 3rd party fx, like those created from Waveboy. Try to make those demolition fx with some other machine. :P

When ASR10 came, Ensoniq had found cure to those problems with deep bass samples (like some bassdrums).
-16Mt RAM (16+ had 2Mt and 1Mt Flash ROM option)
-Wider support for SCSI devices also.
-Stereo input (if someone wants to use memory for stereo sampling. With this modest RAM amounts i dont see the point, especially when you can turn mono sample to stereo with editing some parameters and creating extra layers.)

ASR-X is one of those mistakes i mentioned. Nice product, but whole Ensoniq company would have made much better success with bringing updated version of ASR10 instead of ASR-X.
Userinterface in X was too different to old ensoniq users, advanced edits were hided, and usable with software editor only.. and so on.

To easier and cheaper solution for Ensoniq would have been ASR10 with built in resonant filters and few more fx processors. :)
Much less research and development work and a product that customers could actually use.
Built in synth was not bad idea. But instead of sampled sounds, synth with some real synthesis (FM/iPD/PD/Analog) brings more life to sampler than ROMpler sounds..

That biggest mistake in Ensoniq perhaps was that they listened customers and tried to create product with big success.. result was ASR-X.
Who listens customers after that?

Gladly Ensoniq made one good product after that; FIZMO. Bringing Transwave "synthesis" back to life.

Earlier SD synths were propably the most unreliable products Ensoniq has ever made -based to stories in Synthsites i have read. Though they are not always thruths, like we have seen here also.

-That newest one (i dont even remember its type) is propably just one of those romplers, and more EMU than Ensoniq.

Slava said:
does eps16+ read wave?

To others who might read this afterwards; no it can not.

But it is possible to convert .wav's to .efe files with Awave (sound file converter) -and use EPSDISK (dos program) to move them to floppy disks EPS use.

EPSDISK can make much usefull things like format disks to use with EPS16+ too, but if i remember correctly i had to play pretty much with those things back then.. . . decade ago.
Maybe it was that Ensoniq didnt always accept disks that were formatted with EPSDISK or something.

Nowadays i use SCSI Iomega ZIP drive instead of floppies. (Made little modification to make it work).
I still have EPS16+. Rack model with CDROM+ZIPDrives.

lo e said:
does anyone here know the major difference between the ensoniq eps and the ensoniq eps 16 (or plus?).
-lo e-

Effect processor. Same one that it is used in DP4 & DP4+ -and it's programmable. Though no one after waveboy has not made new ones?
That doesnt mean that you could not create your own effects with DP's or EPS16+, of course it is possible -there is huge amount of parameters in every effect- but because that processor (ESP) is programmable, it is possible to create totally new ones.. if just having skills and knowledge to do it.

-And like someone already said, 16+ is 16bit sampler, Original EPS is 12bit.
 
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