first mexican rapper with skills?

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Mexican rappers will never be excepted in national mainstream they have their
little niche though ... I dont think any of'em are really tight though.
 
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H&R said:
Mexican rappers will never be excepted in national mainstream they have their
little niche though ... I dont think any of'em are really tight though.
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wow, really?
what makes you think so?
never say never, you may eat your words one day.
 
LOL@ all the people confusing the puerta rican and cuban rappers with mexicans
 
LGBars said:
wow, really?
what makes you think so?
never say never, you may eat your words one day.
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Mexicans are generally laughed at and made fun and are associated
with being real poor and not given respect in my area ... and they
pretty much dont interact outside of their race as well as most don't
speak english (again in my area/state). Its not racial its pretty much
due to them being low income which the majority happen to be.

It would be 10x harder for a mexican rapper to be accepted by the
general public (which the general public is defiently not FP or most
of FP members thought process/attitude) than it would be for a white
rapper to be accepted. Also Teenage girls are not gonna be dancing
around, chanting, and falling in love with a mexican rapper ...
Especially pre/teenage white girls who are the mtv/bet/radio buying
public ... & major labels would never go for it.

They will have their niche but wont come close to making a dent in
mainstream.
 
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H&R said:
Mexicans are generally laughed at and made fun and are associated
with being real poor and not given respect in my area ... and they
pretty much dont interact outside of their race as well as most don't
speak english (again in my area/state). Its not racial its pretty much
due to them being low income which the majority happen to be.

It would be 10x harder for a mexican rapper to be accepted by the
general public (which the general public is defiently not FP or most
of FP members thought process/attitude) than it would be for a white
rapper to be accepted. Also Teenage girls are not gonna be dancing
around, chanting, and falling in love with a mexican rapper ...
Especially pre/teenage white girls who are the mtv/bet/radio buying
public ... & major labels would never go for it.

They will have their niche but wont come close to making a dent in mainstream.
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Well I am sure circumstances do vary depending on location, but such assocations to poverty are real insignificant and any overegeneralizations based upon are more than unnecessary.
Since when has adversity not been part of the picture?
And in many cases in Texas you will find that Hispanics are the majority, not to mention the fastest growing minority in America, where all demographics interact amongst eachother. As far as Spanish, music is the universal language and as long as you have good presentation and delivery this should never be an issue.
I couldn't tell you how many times I have heard white kids sing Spanish lyrics, and if they don't know what it means they ask, breaking any communication barriers originally imposed. More and more people are learnig Spanish everyday.
As well, being bilingual has a siginificant benefit to appealing to a much broader audience, expanding to all Hispanic nations throughout the world directly distributing mass appeal throughout.
Latino's from what I can tell do have good tendencies to support one another's uprising for the most part.
I also know a lot of white girls who love latinos, if not Mexicans exclusively. :)

By year 2050, Hispanics will be the predominant racial class in America, and so by then if not a lot sooner I'm sure if any Mexican artist was on the come up, the indusrty would know better than to deny such an exposure to the mainstream based on such an overwhelming misconception.

It's just a matter of time, someone out there is just waiting to break the mold. It's not a matter of never happening, it just hasn't happened yet.
 
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Outisde of specific "niche" areas as you mentioned texas ... it won't
happen thats the normal out there obviously ... up north in the east
coast it's not the normal and mexicans are not easily part of the normal
interaction generally speaking. Im 21 but when i was in high school
no one wanted to mexican kids around they kept to themselves & its
pretty much the same way in regular society now.

No one cares to learn spanish or listen to spanish music if they are
not spanish pretty much up here ... The white kids who do try to sing
along to spanish music get laughed at because their just trying to fit
and and be "down" with spanish kids (puerto ricans mainly) ... Black people
can careless for reggaeton or spanish people as well as everyone else.

Hispanics are not the general buying public for hip hop again so the
industry is not going to care. It's a niche thing
 
H&R said:
Outisde of specific "niche" areas as you mentioned texas ... it won't
happen thats the normal out there obviously ... up north in the east
coast it's not the normal and mexicans are not easily part of the normal
interaction generally speaking. Im 21 but when i was in high school
no one wanted to mexican kids around they kept to themselves & its
pretty much the same way in regular society now.

No one cares to learn spanish or listen to spanish music if they are
not spanish pretty much up here ... The white kids who do try to sing
along to spanish music get laughed at because their just trying to fit
and and be "down" with spanish kids (puerto ricans mainly) ... Black people
can careless for reggaeton or spanish people as well as everyone else.

Hispanics are not the general buying public for hip hop again so the
industry is not going to care. It's a niche thing
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Since when is an entire region a "niche"?
The whole SouthWest is well socially interacted from my experience. Times are changing, and more and more people are prone to be open-minded and less discriminant. And quite actually, if you have any interest in increasing sel-worth in human capital , you know more than well to learn a second language, assuming you are career established to begin with.
I also know a lot of black people that are so down with reggaeton and know more than enough Spanish to carry a respectable conversation. Sure, it can be funny when one speaks with an accent, but the laughing is all in fun, and such attempts are admired upon cultural assimilation.
So to say that no one cares is ridiculous.
Believe it or not, there are a lot of people out there who do mature beyond high school.
 
Replace the word "demographic" in the place of "niche" in DJ Nice's post, he is pretty much spot on IMO. In relation to "mainstream" anyway.

The way he says it is up where he is, thats how it is down here in the ATL too.

It's not that no one cares, it's that there are still lines of segregation, some self imposed and some implied unfortunately. It's just how it is, maybe in 2050 or whatever you were talking about, things will be different. But for the immediate future, it's just not crackin the mainstream. Only reason "Gasolina" did so well was because that was when Lil Jon could **** in a bowl and sell it for a million dollars.
 
Alabaster said:
Replace the word "demographic" in the place of "niche" in DJ Nice's post, he is pretty much spot on IMO. In relation to "mainstream" anyway.

The way he says it is up where he is, thats how it is down here in the ATL too.

It's not that no one cares, it's that there are still lines of segregation, some self imposed and some implied unfortunately. It's just how it is, maybe in 2050 or whatever you were talking about, things will be different. But for the immediate future, it's just not crackin the mainstream. Only reason "Gasolina" did so well was because that was when Lil Jon could **** in a bowl and sell it for a million dollars.
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Thank you

Non spanish people don't even like reggaeton over here they
pretty much hate it ... A mexican rapper in the market over
here would do horribly ...
 
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lol at yall not knowin about mr shadow, or slush the villain.

they have skills.
 
Alabaster said:
Replace the word "demographic" in the place of "niche" in DJ Nice's post, he is pretty much spot on IMO. In relation to "mainstream" anyway.

The way he says it is up where he is, thats how it is down here in the ATL too.

It's not that no one cares, it's that there are still lines of segregation, some self imposed and some implied unfortunately. It's just how it is, maybe in 2050 or whatever you were talking about, things will be different. But for the immediate future, it's just not crackin the mainstream. Only reason "Gasolina" did so well was because that was when Lil Jon could **** in a bowl and sell it for a million dollars.
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mainstream never really is what the people want anyways.
and I am sure things will realize much sooner than 2050, so you can eat your words early. so u saying "Gasolina" only did so well because of Lil'John?
That song was already on and poppin way before that fool jumped on. not even talking about reggaeton specifically, so much more bigger than that.
 
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H&R said:
Thank you

Non spanish people don't even like reggaeton over here they
pretty much hate it ... A mexican rapper in the market over
here would do horribly ...
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since when we trying to single out reggaeton?
well unfortunately "over here" can not speak for every other place out there, "non spanish people" just vent out frustration in that of the fact that they don't understand the content of the music lyrically.
 
Txican said:
mainstream never really is what the people want anyways.
and I am sure things will realize much sooner than 2050, so you can eat your words early. so u saying "Gasolina" only did so well because of Lil'John?
That song was already on and poppin way before that fool jumped on. not even talking about reggaeton specifically, so much more bigger than that.
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true true
 
kahliljn said:
I beg to differ...Mainstream isn't just hiphop/R@B..Its popular music from all genres...
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what i was getting at is that nowadays mainstream is oversaturated and overcommercialized and deter away listeners who prefer more authentic venues opposed to per say what's being played on the radio.
 
Txican said:
what i was getting at is that nowadays mainstream is oversaturated and overcommercialized and deter away listeners who prefer more authentic venues opposed to per say what's being played on the radio.
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I feel you but a majority of the people still listen to mainstream..In fact look at all the highest selling artist from any genre....all mainstream artist
 
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