I know I probably sound like a crybaby hater. But this is how I realy feel. I do like the neptunes don't get me wrong, but If I were to put out a song like grindin, and post it for everybody to hear, I bet you I'd be getting responses all day long like "good start but you need a melody" or "I like it but you need some effects and a bass line. It still sounds incomplete" I've seen it too many times here, and in studios. But since the neptunes are such a big name and deemed proffesionals, nobody will ever question anything they put out. Somebody is gonna feel it cause its a neptune beat reguardles of the fact they pooped it out in 30 seconds, looped it and went back to sleep.
-Ajari-
I disagree, you can make a good song with a minimalistic beat, if you got 2 hot rappers on it.
I always saw grindin' as a tribute to all the minimalistic 80's hip hop. Run DMC - Sucker Mc's/LL cool J's - Can't live without my Radio and alot of Mantronix stuff, those records are classic hip hop right there. And I wouldnt say that those records were missing anything.
But I guess its a matter of taste though..