Quick Rane Empath review.

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Hey guys. I figured I’d post a quick review of the Empath mixer from Rane since it’s been generating a lot of interest on the board.

The basics:
10” form factor.
Three channels with phono/line switches on each.
One mic channel with a two band EQ and a mic engage button (!).
An AUX input that you can cue.
Full cut, three band eq on the three main channels.
Curve control on two main channels and the crossfader.
Three outputs: main (XLR), booth (1/4” TPRS), aux (RCA).
An automatically switching power supply that’s supposed to work in any country with a corresponding power cable.

Keep in mind that I’ve been using it for only a couple of weeks now and have not yet had the chance to use it outside or on any serious PA system. The main thing that drew me to buying it is the flexibility the unit offers. It responds well to both scratching and mixing. It has curve controls for the cross fader and the two outermost channels (because it wouldn’t make sense to scratch on the center fader). The curve control is very drastic and easily allows both mixing and scratching. While on the topic; the faders on the mixer are extremely smooth! I honestly think that these are the best ones I’ve ever used. They have a bit of weight to them and aren’t loose so if you were to tilt the mixer the faders would stay put. For those who don’t know they are 45mm Penny and Giles faders. The manual describes how to take the fader apart. The way it’s made allows you to simply replace a worn track (if that’s the problem) instead of the whole fader. I think they are rated at 2 million passes. The nice thing about them is a built in dust cover so when you look through the hole for the fader tip you see a black cover instead of a track.

All three channels could be routed to either the “A” or “B” side of the crossfader. Besides the obvious benefits of this feature it allows you to reverse the channels like you would on a dedicated scratch mixer even though this one doesn’t have a dedicated reverse switch. The upfaders are not reversible however and will go from 0-100% from the starting point only. Channels 1 and 3 and both sides of the crossfader have a CD start feature that is turned on by a switches 1-OFF-A and 3-OFF-B on either side of the crossfader. I’m not sure how this would be useful though.

The EQ section of the mixer is very nicely implemented. It has a three band EQ that allows you to completely cut out each frequency. Although I don’t remember the crossover points it sounds great and has already proven to be very useful. As an added bonus Rane included an EQ on/off switch so you can make the main EQ post fader if you wanted to.

Unlike most mixers the gains on the Empath could actually be set below 0. This allows you to play some your louder records and still bring channel faders all the way up. It adds (or takes away) 12 decibels to your signal. The Empath also has an “auto gain” function which is basically an automatically set gain control that tries to make your main output stay as close to 0 decibels as possible. It’s an interesting feature and probably needs more attention but I don’t think I’ve used it enough to comment more on it. The main problem is that if your live track has a quiet part to it this feature will make it louder which is not always a desired effect.

The mixer also has pan knobs for each channel for obvious reasons (although in practice I’m yet to find a really good use for it).

Both ¼” and 1/8” headphone jacks are available on the front of the mixer. The headphone output has a dedicated EQ for the low and high frequencies adding or cutting 12 decibels. Again a nice feature that I don’t use very much. I probably will start to use it but I’m a bit reluctant because I don’t want to become too used to it and have it not be available when I’m not using the Empath. The headphone amp is loud and clear.

The overall layout is logical and the spacing between controls makes it easy to use. The mixer came with rubberized knobs that I like because they make it easier to make precise changes but Rane also provides a set of regular (plastic) fader caps. My mixer didn’t come with them but I called the tech support and had them in 2 days.

I can’t comment too much on the flex-fx system that the Empath has because I don’t have any effects units hooked up to it. The three main channels and the mic (!) have a wet-dry fader. The effects could be cued and the mixer has both a send and return fader for the effects.

The way cueing works on this mixer is fairly straight forward. You can cue any channel (obviously except the mic) and fade from full cue output to full program output and anywhere in between so you can mix your tracks completely in your headphones. There’s also a split cue button that puts the cue signal in the left headphone driver and program in the right. The Empath also has a “flash cue” lever that allows you to quickly switch what source you’re listening to. After assigning each channel to either the A or B side of the crossfader you can use that lever to switch what you hear w/o having have to press any buttons.

The VU meter allows you to either view the main or cued signal. When the split cue button is pressed the cue fader allows you to watch both signals at the same time. This is a bit confusing and I don’t think I completely understand how this works myself so I suggest reading the manual the mixer comes with. The best thing about the meter is that the peak level led lingers after the signal quiets down making it much easier to see what’s going on. You can easily tell that the mixer has a load of headroom so I wouldn’t worry too much about that.

In general I really like this mixer it offers pretty much everything I wanted and is quite easy to use. It’s also nice to know that Rane has a reputation for great tech support (personal experience) and makes very dependable/durable mixers. I would however change a few things about it, the main one being the addition of a separate VU meter for each channel. That can’t be too hard to implement and I think that it’s very useful to have. I wouldn’t mind if it had an extra channel either. I could really care less if it’s 10” or a bit more. I would also put in a different power socket. The one it has snaps into the chassis to hold it in so it isn’t too hard to giggle the cable in the back and get a pop. That’s non-essential though, as this isn’t really a problem because the sound never cuts out on its own and I was simply messing w/it needlessly. The last change I can think of right now: have built in (screwed on) rubber feet on the bottom of the mixer. The little ones that came in the box are self adhesive and one of them happened to be of a different height than the others making the mixer unstable if I put pressure on one corner. That’s also easy to remedy. I simply put a couple of post-its under it and never had a problem since. When I have more time though I’ll likely call Rane for replacements or simply go to a local store and buy some new ones though.

Infradead PMed me these questions earlier:

When'd you get an Empath?
A couple of weeks back.

What do you think of it?
I love it.

What do you think is great?
Read above.

Could be better?
Can’t everything? :D

Favorite feature?
I really like the way the faders feel but I don’t suppose that’s much of a feature so I’d have to say the VU meter’s lingering peak led.

Feel free to post any questions you have and I’ll respond to them as best I can.

If any of you want I can record a sample of a record and EQ it so you can hear how drastic its effects are on the signal and the curve control.

Further reading:
Rane manual: http://www.rane.com/pdf/empaman.pdf

Other reviews: https://en.audiofanzine.com/dj-console/rane/Empath/user_reviews/

I’ll post pictures later today.

-Gene
 
i myself thought the same thing. In my eyes the rane has only two weaknesses- as you said the lack of separte VU meter for each channel.

and i myself just like having a record output on the mixer I use- too bad- but still a beauty of a piece.
 
You can always use the AUX output for that. Personally I only use the main output for speakers at home and record from the booth out.

-Gene
 
nice review!

i myself got a ttm56 about a week ago, and it seems like that has all the same features except it has no 3rd channel(has aux in but its not trimmable), and it has the magnetic for both upfaders and x-fader instead. it also has better contouring/reverse controls for the upfaders sounds like.

anyways, sounds like a very nice mixer of course... just being primarily a scratch dj myself, i know the 2million passes on the P&G fader would go by rather quickly, and knowing ill never have to replace any of my faders is quite nice.
 
nice review!
Thanks. :D

You're exactly right; I wouldn't suggest this mixer to a turntablist only dj. It does have many essential features for scratching but it's not specifically designed for that so it lacks some of the stuff available on the TTm56. I don't think that 2 million passes leaves much to be desired for any type of dj but that can't compete with the magnetic faders on the 56. I think those stood up to 13 million before they got tired of watching that sewing machine go at it. You should write up a review of it. I'd be great if everyone took some time and wrote up a small review of their gear.

-Gene
 
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Y-itEarp said:
nice review!

i myself got a ttm56 about a week ago, and it seems like that has all the same features except it has no 3rd channel(has aux in but its not trimmable), and it has the magnetic for both upfaders and x-fader instead. it also has better contouring/reverse controls for the upfaders sounds like.

anyways, sounds like a very nice mixer of course... just being primarily a scratch dj myself, i know the 2million passes on the P&G fader would go by rather quickly, and knowing ill never have to replace any of my faders is quite nice.


You must be kidding. I have a non focus fader Stanton SK6 with conventional Alps faders for which Stanton (in the manual) guarantees 15.000 passes (compare that to 2 mil.). I've been scratching for a year and few months now, and consumed 2 faders and now I just put the third (didn't buy anything new, Stanton faders are all interchangeable - cross with line faders). And it's all cool... I never used lube, but I bet if I had used it the others faders would have lasted even more. I scratch maybe 10 hours a week, I know that's not much, but still I do torture my mixer. I think P&G's on the Empath would be eternal for me...
 
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oh yeah not saying it wouldnt be perfectly fine for some people, just for myself it wouldnt be as practical... i scratch at least 4 hours a day, much of that is sharpening my crabbing so i dont even wanna think how many passes i go through in a week. granted 2million passes may take a while to get to, but not that long... and i would definately replace the x-fader on it several times. add that cost to the already higher purchase price on the empath and the uber-reliability of the magnetic faders which are also all interchangable and thats why i didnt even look very hard at the empath. like i said though, its perfectly viable for most djs i would think, just ones that are as scratch-heavy as myself i would recommend the ttm56 over the empath. actually, id recommend it for anyone who doesnt need that 3rd channel on the empath. the only thing i would use it for is some of my production stuff running through it, but i have my AUX in for that and i dont need trims for it since i can do that with hardware/software. anyways, if you dont need the 3rd channel or the autogain(lets hope anyone buying that expensive of a mixer already knows how to match levels), go with the 56 i think. its more reliable it seems and lower in price. also it does have the seperate meter for each channel.
 
Thanks for the review Gene... This adds another choice to my list of new toys that I want. At this rate, I will have made a decision about new mixers by about a year from now...
-Peasant Nikon
 
Thanks for all of the positive response.

Here are the pictures I promised:

empath_1.jpg

empath_2.jpg

empath_3.jpg


-Gene
 
gene-pool said:
You can always use the AUX output for that. Personally I only use the main output for speakers at home and record from the booth out.

-Gene

i hear you. my setup is like this at hom:

Master XLR to Active Monitors (i cant spin loud a lot so a lot of times i just use these so i can keep it kinda low)
Master RCA to amplifier to speakers in back room (when people are over)
Booth RCA to Amp for larger speakers near where I spin for when i can crank it.
REC RCA to Sound CARd- nice cause it keeps the output at a steady volume makes recording easy.

for example if a mixer splits the VU between CUE and MASTER if you cant spin loud or have to turn the master down you dont get an accurate representation of what level the master you are mixing into is at because the master is reflecting the lowered volume. with a REC output at a steady output and channel VU meters even if you have to turn the master down you know that as long as channel 1 is equal level to channel 2 the sound will be even and nice. of course this could be solved by putting the MASTER output to the sound card or recording source but this is annoying and could easily be solved by a REC output.

maybe i am just anal..


Ill probably just consolidate my booth rca with my master RCA and just turn the B speakers off when i dont need to fill that room up on the one amp I'll run them both through.

i am really torn to sell my 501 cause it has the individual channle VU meters and i love that feature.
 
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I see what you're saying but, if nothing really bothers you about the SMX I say keep it and spend the extra cash on records.

-Gene
 
Here's a minute long mp3 file that I just recorded as a demo of the EQ section, EQ on/off switch, and the pan knob. The volume fader was kept at 100% through out so when you hear silence that's achieved by simply turning all of the EQ knobs to the "off" position.

The record is Staircase - "See" remixed by Timo Maas released on Hope Recordings.

File:


Let me know if you want other audio files or pics.

-Gene
 
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btw gene. it sounds like the split cue metering would work like this from what i gather from reading on this mixer.


if you have the VU button set to CUE and the headphones cue set to SPLIT CUE the left side of the vu will display the level of the CUE and the right of the master output. this is key for me.

with the VU button set to Master then that is all you see is the master output in stereo

with the VU button set to cue all you see is the Cue output in stereo


but on the rane website it lists four possible VU options:

"Stereo Cue, Stereo Master Mix, Split Cue or Main Output signals "

i figured on what they call the stereo master mix & main ouput signals to be the same thing.

anyways. that is my 2 cents.
 
........

To anyone 'concerned' about fader cycle ratings - don't be. In my experience fader quality varies widely so don't go by the rated stats.
All you need to know is that the P&G's are the best contact fader bar none. With correct maintenence they will last as long as you'll need them.
 
i dont think anyone is disputing that P&Gs are the best contact fader. im just saying if you do lots of fader clicks you might wanna go with a non-contact fader. especially the magnetic ones. i assume the laser style ones could get the lens or something gunked up and itd effect the sound, but with the magnetic ****s, unless you spilled like some iron filings in there, youre good to go.
 
The main problem is that if your live track has a quiet part to it this feature will make it louder which is not always a desired effect.

i see this as being a major turn off. a lof of my tunes do get suddenly quieter so this would really bother me....


really nice review

thanks gene!!

BTW you should send it to mano for the review section of FP!!
 
very true. i think the auto gain is meant to be turned on right before starting a mix....and then just press the button right after to shut it off.

gene if you try that let us know how it goes.
 
wow gene! congrats on getting such an awesome mixer... i'd have one by now, too, but my PA system demanded some new amps first... :rolleyes:

it's great to read your review tho, and i know i will have this mixer soon... *covet covet* :cool:

peace,
sim*n
 
personally i am getting the empath. i think right now it is the finest 3 channel hybrid mixer out there. followed by the 501. the xone:32 is more of a house mixer- the ecler smacpro 40 is more versatile than the 32 and from the reviews here quality is fine while maybe not on an A&H level from all they hype i see about them.

i admit i am speaking only from the experience of using the 501 and the rest is from feedback and my own extensive studying of the mixers and features.

personally i think the RANE people should have done one thing- gotten rid of the AUTO gain feature and with that money saved thrown in individual VU meters per channel and an extra output.

i mean even if the autogain works like a charm it is much more fun to have VU meters per channel and act more like a dj rather than let the mixer adjust levels for you.

and soon i shall know what it is like to use this fine piece.

and gene-pool...sup.......i saw you spin breaks and you are from the city....true that- nice to see a local breakz head on here.
 
Yeah, mine's on the way too. It will be arriving in town tomorrow. Can't wait. :victory:

I agree that the autogain could have been swapped out for the VU meters, but I guess that's what we get for now.
 
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