Something like SliceX for OS X

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I wish there was something comparable to SliceX or even Edison for OS X. With something like that, I could do all my beatslicing and sample mangling in there and have all of Logic's great sounds and fx and have everything I want in 1 place.

Anybody got any ideas? Anything new out there I don't know about?

Not Guru!
 
Well, I guess I got my answer. LOL. I'm downloading Guru newer version now. I don't know, maybe with all the changes they've made to it, I can warm up to it better than before. It's still too expensive though. I mean, it is a lot of program, but I'm not expecting to use more than a little of what it is designed to do. I'm hoping the browser is a great deal better than the earlier version.
 
^^^Think I remember you getting Kontakt a while back. It can do the slicing, but you'd have to edit the loop in something else before loading it.
 
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
^^^Think I remember you getting Kontakt a while back. It can do the slicing, but you'd have to edit the loop in something else before loading it.
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I did. I can't stand it. I knew I couldn't stand it before I got it, but I was hoping I could just warm up to it, but it just wasn't the case. So Kontakt's been collecting dust. It's just too much work just to even get at a sample, let alone deal with the slicer. It's a powerful sampler, but the power is pointless if the interface is so bad. I downloaded the demo of Kontakt 3 but the interface hasn't improved at all. Just a different color.

I took another look at Guru today. Same problem. The interface is just not happening. The only sampler's interface I really liked was Vsampler 3 but it's never been Mac compatible, and it seems to be abandoned at this point anyway. SliceX is a VSTi, but not Mac compatible. SliceX would solve all my sampling problems on the Mac. It's got the power and most importantly, it's got the smart interface that lets you get things done smoothly and easily. It's light and quick. It would have been perfect.

noblewordz said:
pHATmatik? http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/phatmatik/

^ ain't that a ****in cool name for a plugin though?
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I've never liked that one either. I also seem to remember that it was kind of expensive.
 
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I haven't tried SliceX or Edison, but what other features than what Recycle can give, do you need?
 
Recycle is not a VSTi so it's not in consideration at all. And the other thing is, it's not about features so much. It's about interface. Guru certainly can do what I want it to do, but the interface is awful. Same with Kontakt. I get totally put off just endlessly scrolling through kontact's menu, and the slice editor is just a chore. SliceX is amazing. You can zoom in instantly to the precise spot, pan around using the "hand" tool. It's fast to load up. You can browse for samples without using some tiny useless custom browser. It just doesn't get in the way of work while Guru, Kontakt and others make you work hard just to find a sample. I have perfect eyesight and I have to squint to see the tiny things in Guru's interface.
 
L.A. Stone........man im having the same prob dude....if i just only had the FL slicer on the mac so i can CHANGE PITCH WITHOUT CHANGING TIME i would be a happy camper....i know its been a while since your post but let me know if u found anything to compensate
 
LOL. Well, I have both a Mac and PCs so...I'm back to doing all my music stuff on the PC. The only thing that really tied me to the Mac was Logic, and only the sample based instruments of Logic to be honest. So I converted all the sample based instruments so now I can use them on the PC where I have EVERYTHING I need. Otherwise, Cubase on the Mac is a possibility. It never worked right for me on my Mac, but I'm sure that's just me. The best audio editing, looping, slicing, syncing I can find on the Mac is Cubase.
 
to LA stone: can i change the pitch of a sample with changing time in Cubase?

to chris@mixdsp: I used FL Studio for 4 years, Reason for 2, and logic pro 8 for the last two months. logic is great for midi...but over workflow hands down to fl studio and reason...fl only flaw is the mixing bus which u can rewire
 
Ok, so if you use logic then it's quite easy to chop up a loop and create and exs24 instrument. Import or Record your sample into an audio track, get out your scissors and chop the loop up, open up an exs24 instrument and click edit, now select all your chops and drag to the exs24 instrument and away you go.

This way you don't need any extra plug-ins or even have to leave logic.
 
your right chris......but u cant pitch shift without changing the speed and i NEEEEDDDD that one lil function.
 
Before chopping use the time and pitch machine. You can change tempo, pitch or both.

Double click audio to bring up the sample editor > factory > time and pitch machine.
 
Naw, audio chopping is balls no matter which way you cut it in Logic. What I like to do is chop everything up in Ableton demo and then resample the chops back into Logic through an external mixer. It may sound a little complex but it's actually pretty simple.
 
Chris@MixDSP said:
^^^ that seems like way to much work when you can just do it all in one program. Not sure what "audio chopping in balls" means but I assume bad since you explain another way.

How can it get simpler than this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzDEvZ7aaKA
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Right click sample in browser, choose, "Open in SliceX". It creates a new instance of SliceX, with sample in it, pre-chopped, premapped to keys, and optionally, pre-sent to piano roll. It takes all of 1 second, realistically. Play it on your keyboard. A program like Logic should not be so thoroughly outdone by one such as FL Studio I think. Actually, FL is just way out there with this kind of thing. Cubase 4 can't do what was done in that video. Cubase 5 with it's new tools takes things to a whole new level. Logic is an interesting program. Some aspects of it are very forward thinking. Other aspects of it are decidedly 1997. That's a hundred "computer" years. LOL
 
to Chris, trying to do any sample editing is just goofy in Logic. What if I don't want to chop up the sample on the beat? Time to bust out the old sample editor at the bottom, set the anchor point, and hope that Logic extracts all the regions I designate, which it almost never does. Then time to load up the chops in the EXS and fidget around with the keymapping since that never goes right(at least for me) the first time around. Then you have to save your chops as a EXS instrument which is pretty f*ckin retarded if you do alot of sampling. I'm not sure if Logic is your first DAW but everyone pretty much knows that the main weak link holding Logic back is Audio. Ableton Live and pretty much any other program out there sh*ts on Logic in terms of Audio.
 
Chris@MixDSP said:
Ok, so if you use logic then it's quite easy to chop up a loop and create and exs24 instrument. Import or Record your sample into an audio track, get out your scissors and chop the loop up, open up an exs24 instrument and click edit, now select all your chops and drag to the exs24 instrument and away you go.

This way you don't need any extra plug-ins or even have to leave logic.
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Now, how do you get your chops EXACTLY right, i have timing issues with logic and kontakt 4 now. the fruity slicer and slice x was easy!!!!!
 
I know where your coming from man, sampling vst's suck - straight up. I'm deciding wether or not to switch to maschine. From what ive seen and heard, maschine is what the mpc SHOULD be. Its got perfect workflow and perfect integration. Only problem is the price!! Other than that, you could try ableton live. Isnt fl studio for mac? Because it comes in vst form and has its own version of slicex built in. Theres a cheap version of fl meant to be used as a vst.
 
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