The Game - The Documentary (Official Tracklist)

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Game's delivery doesn't even come into the equation for me. With a production roster like that this album should be outstanding.
 
Dang, this album is shaping up really nice . so far every track i've heard from Game's album has been heat. Might be the best release to come outta the g-unit camp.
 
The best marketing move on here is that Detox snippet. IMO that alone is going to sell a LOT of this album.

On another note, the production team is just silly dope. I can't imagine how much must have been spent on the beats (the ones outside of the Aftermath camp.) I find it interesting that Dre and Storch are doing a track together. Is this their first collaboration since Storch left Aftermath and went solo?

The only (somewhat) no-name producer (compared to Storch, Dre, Blaze, West) is that Porter guy, but I def. recognize his name. What else did he produce...It was a 50 song I think, I could be wrong though.
 
I found this tracklist on another site. There were several people claiming this to be the actual listing for the cd. I don't know if this is bogus but I wanted to post it anyway. Peace!

The Documentary – 18th January 2005

1.Higher (prod. by Dr.Dre)
2.Westside Story feat. Snoop Dogg (prod. by Dr.Dre)
3.How We Do feat. 50 Cent (prod. by Dr.Dre)
4.Yellow tape
5.Killa Cali
6.The Blackwallstreet
7.West West
8.Envy Me feat. 50 Cent
9.Father Like Son feat. Busta Rhymes
10.Compton
11.Where I’m From feat. Dr Dre & Nate Dogg (prod. by Dr.Dre & Focus))
12.Eyes Closed (skit)
13.9 Shots
14.Eyes Open (skit)
15.Church 4 Thugs feat. Nate Dogg
16.Dreams (prod. by Kanye West)
17.Boyz In The Hood

Bonus
Still Cruisin feat. Eazy E (prod. by Red Spyda)
Growin Up In Da Hood feat. Obie Trice
Empty Clip feat. Lloyd Banks

Production:

Eminem (1 track)
Just Blaze (2 tracks)
Kanye West (2 tracks)
Timbaland (1 track)
Hi-Tek (1 track)
Nu Jerzey Devil (1 track)
Dr. Dre (9 tracks)

Executive Producer will be Dr. Dre
 
MintyFreshBeats said:
The only (somewhat) no-name producer (compared to Storch, Dre, Blaze, West) is that Porter guy, but I def. recognize his name. What else did he produce...It was a 50 song I think, I could be wrong though.
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P.I.M.P was the track, he's one of D12, can't remember which one though.
 
Yeah, I think the crazy shower cap guy. (Bizzare?)
 
MintyFreshBeats said:
Yeah, I think the crazy shower cap guy. (Bizzare?)
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hell no. Kon Artis. aka Denaun Porter. also produced "stunt 101"
 
Haha alright my bad. Too bad it wasnt the crazy shower cap guy though... :rolleyes:
 
i think yall are analyzing music a little to much. what it all comes down to, before the hype, before the gun shots, the track sequencing, the promotion, all that bs that has destroyed music, is the music itself.

you can study all that industry bullshyt but GOOD MUSIC is what keeps you hot. you might be able to keep a hot single or a buzz for a minute with all that junk you are studying, but in the end nobody will be checking for you unless your shyt is sounding right.

and i think we can all agree that Dre's current shyt is subpar, even disspaointing. theres not much to study. if you want to study music, check other music genres, cause dre is far from rocket science, if you want to learn something from dre understand that to stay hot in the game for nearly 20 years means hiring a bunch of in studio musicians and ghost producers, keeping a huge ghost producer roster under your belt to keep with the current times.......everything else the man does is elementary.

check out russell simmons, p diddy, or even jay z, the big things hes been doing, for the industry.

for strictly music, in hip hop, the only guy worth studying these days is scott storch.

but games album will flop. mark my words, the jump off was weak, how we do failed.
 
Only Scott Storch is worth studying?

What about people like Hi-Tek and Just Blaze? I think there are a lot of producers that are worth "studying," not just Storch.
 
MintyFreshBeats said:
Only Scott Storch is worth studying?

What about people like Hi-Tek and Just Blaze? I think there are a lot of producers that are worth "studying," not just Storch.
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true, i only mentioned storch because i am a biased keyboard producer. but yes just blaze, NEPTUNES, hi tek, dan the automator, DJ QUIK, all great people to study, i mentioned storch only because his music is fairly simple, uses no samples, and he incorporates a lot of fundamental music theory, which is a great thing to learn. dont get me wrong sampling is a respectable way of making music itself, but knowing your minors, majors, and yadadada to be able to break it down in front of a piano AND the studio is really important and often ignored. storch is the only mainstream producer i know of that incorporates music theory at a pretty good level himself without the help of ghost producers. but ya theres a lot to learn from everyone, i just dont see anything that exciting to learn from dre at a musical level. however dre at his g funk years, that was some hot shyt.
 
DC SOUNDS said:
i think yall are analyzing music a little to much. what it all comes down to, before the hype, before the gun shots, the track sequencing, the promotion, all that bs that has destroyed music, is the music itself.

you can study all that industry bullshyt but GOOD MUSIC is what keeps you hot. you might be able to keep a hot single or a buzz for a minute with all that junk you are studying, but in the end nobody will be checking for you unless your shyt is sounding right.

and i think we can all agree that Dre's current shyt is subpar, even disspaointing. theres not much to study. if you want to study music, check other music genres, cause dre is far from rocket science, if you want to learn something from dre understand that to stay hot in the game for nearly 20 years means hiring a bunch of in studio musicians and ghost producers, keeping a huge ghost producer roster under your belt to keep with the current times.......everything else the man does is elementary.

check out russell simmons, p diddy, or even jay z, the big things hes been doing, for the industry.

for strictly music, in hip hop, the only guy worth studying these days is scott storch.

but games album will flop. mark my words, the jump off was weak, how we do failed.
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good music is what keeps you hot? Respectfully, THAT'S THE DUMBEST THING I EVER HEARD. The proof that that statement is false is in the term UNDERRATED. Good music + bad business = NO RECOGNITION.

Dre is worth studying because he is at the head of the AFTERMATH MACHINE, which is without a doubt the biggest selling, most consistent, HIGHEST GROSSING team in the game.

What they do isn't ROCKET science, but it is a science. It's psychology. It's economics. It's finance and accounting. It's marketing. It's all those things. And i want to learn it.

I understand the music part of it. So i'm moving on to learn what it takes to make the music fly off the shelves. Cuz obviously Dre knows. And that's why Game's CD is gonna be the most prized CD in my collection for at least the next month.
 
Good point. Look at how Dre handled the 50 cent situation, with him being shot and everything. That was huge publicity. Guys get shot everyday, but Dre had the know-how to turn that incident into a publicity stunt that moved like 700,000+ copies of GRODT in the first week.

A true business man, among other things for sure.
 
I'm going to boycott this because 10 other million people will buy it and play it to death.

I might check it out in like 2 years. Get a true feel for the album and not get lost in the hype and expectations.

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J troupe can outrap Game ? Please link me any track you have out, Im curious now.

Assuming the first tracklist posted is correct. A Eminem beat followed by a Hi Tek production ? See J Troupe, analyzing involves judging works not mimicing them. If you are truly out to learn and study from this you'd immediately raise your eyebrowes to that instead of praising Dre as a genius and declaring your proposition to make the Game album a course at Harvard for all to learn and analyze sequences and BPM data.

I still want to hear your song before you respond to that.

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There is such a thing as overproduction and Im afraid this is going to happen on this album.

Jay Z did it on Black album and flopped. 99 Problems and Lucifer dont belong on the same album. Shoulda went with the RIck Rubin sound all the way and he would of had a classic on his hands. GOne out like a King and end the Jigga-Nas argument forever.

Gathering the 15 best beats is not going to produce a good album. Classic albums all have a rhythmic production from one track to the next and the sound reads like a book almost.

Listen to Cormega's - The Realness, quite possibly the best produced album I ever heard. Its the product as a whole that counts, not random hot tracks.

Illmatic had, individually based, decent at best production. But together...almost every beat contemplate each other, produces the same vibe, stay on par with the album and just brings the whole thing together. Whereas you listen to It Was Written and the production isn't as close knit. You listen to that Dre produced track and it's like what's this doing on the album ?



analyze that trouper

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Dre's snippet only goes to show Game aint a real emcee. That reaks of "Im his *****". How can anyone take him seriously ?
 
The Black Album flopped? How so...If Jay-Z had a cd full of rock style beats I think people would tire of that real quickly.
 
No they wouldn't.


When Run DMC came out with that rock sound, everybody at first was like wtf, then they went on to become one of the greatest bands in the history of hip hop.


And the guitar riff along with rock bands is coming back with a vengeance. Y'all as producers should keep up on trends. Jay Z's 99 problems, his collaboration with Linkin Park, Trick Daddy's Lil Jon produced Let's Go, the Mos Def album, the Eminem song he did with borrowed chorus from Aerosmith I think it was, had that video out where he was rocking green and its snippets of live shows and stuff, always forget the name of that song.....Jay Z could of been one of the biggest catalyst for the revival of that.


Instead he has a up and down album that failed to live up to expectations. Remember the hype to its release and all the leaks ? The production on that album has NO flow, whoever put together the tracks should get fired. The Neptunes track, the Kayne tracks, the Just Blaze tracks, the Eminem track, the RIck Rubin....NONE of that went remotely together.




In that sense, yes the album was a flop. Sure it sold, and sure it had some great songs on it, but its not a classic album. Not even close. Seems like its a bunch of random tracks with hot production thrown together.
 
Pumpz said:
J troupe can outrap Game ? Please link me any track you have out, Im curious now.

Assuming the first tracklist posted is correct. A Eminem beat followed by a Hi Tek production ? See J Troupe, analyzing involves judging works not mimicing them. If you are truly out to learn and study from this you'd immediately raise your eyebrowes to that instead of praising Dre as a genius and declaring your proposition to make the Game album a course at Harvard for all to learn and analyze sequences and BPM data.

I still want to hear your song before you respond to that.

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There is such a thing as overproduction and Im afraid this is going to happen on this album.

Jay Z did it on Black album and flopped. 99 Problems and Lucifer dont belong on the same album. Shoulda went with the RIck Rubin sound all the way and he would of had a classic on his hands. GOne out like a King and end the Jigga-Nas argument forever.

Gathering the 15 best beats is not going to produce a good album. Classic albums all have a rhythmic production from one track to the next and the sound reads like a book almost.

Listen to Cormega's - The Realness, quite possibly the best produced album I ever heard. Its the product as a whole that counts, not random hot tracks.

Illmatic had, individually based, decent at best production. But together...almost every beat contemplate each other, produces the same vibe, stay on par with the album and just brings the whole thing together. Whereas you listen to It Was Written and the production isn't as close knit. You listen to that Dre produced track and it's like what's this doing on the album ?



analyze that trouper

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Dre's snippet only goes to show Game aint a real emcee. That reaks of "Im his *****". How can anyone take him seriously ?
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trouper...lol...haven't heard that since 8th grade...ahh Mrs Goodwin...

1) I gave up rapping a long time ago. But i did pick back up the mic, but I don't have the track here. But yes, i can outrap that dude. He's average. Just like 50. And since you want me to prove that I can out rap him, you must be some sort of fan...i mean coming to his defense and all.

2) How can you analyze or judge something if YOU DON'T KNOW THE LAWS BY WHICH TO JUDGE IT? I'm not mimicing anything. I'm taking the lessons that Dre is putting out via this cd, studying the conceptsand the reasoning behind it, and combining it in my arsenal of knowledge. I'm not sticking to one person's formula. I've studied Puff, Master P, Russell Simmons (read his book and all), and the Rocafella minds just the same.

I'm trying to learn the rules of engagement from the games brightest and greatest leaders. And you people tell me that i should just stick to making beats?? Y'all can have the mediocrity, I don't have any use for it.


3) Jay-Z sold like 3 million albums. How is that a failure? He could have gone at least 1 or 2 more singles deep on that album. That's a failure HOW?? So much for failure from overproduction.

4) Cormega - The Realness. How are you gonna tell me the Jigga album failed and that album sold about 2.5 copies??? That album is the prime example of what a failure is. If the executives behind his project would have studied Dre, then they MAY HAVE KNOWN WHAT SELLS. Cormega's wack ass flow doesn't sell. Them dated ass beats doesn't sell. Taking an album off the shelves that's got years worth of dust on it and selling it DOESN'T SELL. I'll study his album too...as an example of WHAT NOT TO DO.


Did I sufficiently disprove all of your pathetic attempts at making some sort of valid points, or would you like me to go further?
 
Heezzi said:
Geez.. out of 19 tracks, 11 are featured songs. Shame...
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Dre only had like 9 verses total on the whole Chronic 2001 album. Fill up your album with your homies and you won't have to work that hard.
 
hhhhhmm........are you really looking for an argument, this could go for days.



1)

I am NOT a fan of 50. You could even call me anti-50. Nor am I a follower or fan of Game. Matter fact I aint really feeling anyone from G-Unit and none of the front man for AfterMath.

Im just curious to hear anyone that claims they can outrap the next thing in hip hop. Surely there are a million and one others just like you, but granted Im giving you your chance. Show us any track you have done and then we can compare. DOnt give us excuses that you hanged up the mic years ago but claim your hotter then someone thats about to cause a whole lot of noise. WTF. Thats like saying Im better then LeBron James but Im going to stop playing basketball.

2)

Im not telling you anything.
But the only laws to marketing hip hop is the billion dollar industry and all the money they make. A&R, execs, managers and the whole circus. It's the same in every music genre. Your not learning anything new, its a simple formula.

However I dont want to argue this. YOu have your way, I have my way, Bless God for that.

3)

If you measure success by record sales then your logic aint worth arguing with.

Canibus is a hundred times the emcee CHingy is. Canibus sold 40 000 copies of Rip The Jacker, while Chingy prolly went platinum once or twice.

I rest my case.


It took Illmatic, possibly one of the greatest hip hop albums ever, several years before it went platinum. I dont even think it reached gold in its first year.

I forever rest my case.


4)

Im talking from a producers perspective. The sound of the album, the rhythm, the tone and mood it generates. Im not even talking about vocals.

You dont even know how to properly listen to an album do you ?


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Understanding sound. You can learn all you want, you can analyze those who been sucesful till death. But your either born with the ability to understand sound or your not.
 
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