The "Original" Cali Love

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Yo I was browsin Itunes and I came accross this.It said the CD came out in 1995 while
the 2pac CD came out in 1996.I know this nigga is the one singin on the 2pac song, but I'm wonderin if this was a remix or he showed this to Dr. Dre who remixed it?

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1O5VKY4K9Z6KG2VOQ4OY1ZHHC8


Sorry for the bad quality someone on my network is usin all the bandwidth, so I had to compress it or it would of took all day to upload.
 
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Was California originally done by Zapp and Roger? cuz this version seem pretty consistant with most of their late albums.. either way. Kool.. good find =)
 
Roger Troutman was featured on cali love , but it was a sample of his older work.

and come on now, 2pac wrote the verses for that song, including dre's
 
Yeah. I actually have that album and the writing credits are(t.shakur/dr.dre/r.troutman/N.Durham/W.Cunningham) Leading me to believe, like BJv said that this is Roger's version and not the original version.

BTW, rappers are Dale Degraot and Robert"bigg robb" smith.

Anyway, that song, California love has so many effin interpolations...
I always used to wish someone had it all figured out.

You got that bassline sampled on the album version.

THe piano riff that was sampled for the remix.

THat "california pop-lock song" ripped for the vocal hook.

And something (what is it?) from old ROger Troutman **** apparently.

Probly more too.

The man who can solve this riddle truly knows his music.
 
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Dre originally wanted California Love to be HIS first single from the Aftermath Label, but somebody, (I can't remember who,) made him give it to 2pac.
I'm seriously not sure about which version came first, I was almost sure it was Dre's but this is totally confusing.
Ronnie Hudson's West Coast Poplock which is where the chorus comes from, Californiaaa, knows how to party. Was released in 1982.
Dre's California Love apparently contains an interpolation of So Ruff, So Tuff performed by Roger Troutman from the LP: 'The Many Facets of Roger' Which was released in 1981. I do not not WHAT Was interpolated, But I do know it was not a vocal interpolation. And to my knowledge all of the music from Dre's California Love is in Joe Cocker's 'Woman to Woman', Basically a straight rip. Although an interpolation. And Joe Cocker's Woman to Woman was released Early 70's. The California Love Song by Roger Troutman which NonaHendryx put up is not So Ruff, So Tuff. Im almost certain its a remix of California Love by Dre and 2pac. This is all very confusing. If anybody could explain EVERYTHING that I havent that would be cool. But it seems Dre interpolated 3 songs for California Love, One being a Roger Troutman song, And then also had Roger Troutman do the vocals for his California Love.
 
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Yeah. I actually have that album and the writing credits are(t.shakur/dr.dre/r.troutman/N.Durham/W.Cunningham) Leading me to believe, like BJv said that this is Roger's version and not the original version.

BTW, rappers are Dale Degraot and Robert"bigg robb" smith.

Anyway, that song, California love has so many effin interpolations...
I always used to wish someone had it all figured out.

You got that bassline sampled on the album version.

THe piano riff that was sampled for the remix.

THat "california pop-lock song" ripped for the vocal hook.

And something (what is it?) from old ROger Troutman **** apparently.

Probly more too.

The man who can solve this riddle truly knows his music.
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Ronnie Hudson-West Coast Poplock(hook)
Roger-So Ruff So Tuff(original)
Joe Cocker Woman to Woman(remix)


I thought you said you had the album?It says it in there.

I guess I truly know my music :D
 
The version on 2Pac's album was a loop of the first 8 bars of Intimate Connection by Kleeer.
 
So to be clear of what I just said.

The beat for California Love is basically a loop of Joe Cocker's Woman to Woman. California Love's chorus, sung by Roger Troutman, is a vocal interpolation of Rodney Hudson's Westcoast Poplock.
California Love ALSO contains an INTERPOLATION from Roger Troutman's So Ruff, So Tuff, But that info is from the-breaks.com and could be inaccurate. But its not the chorus.
Dre did his version first, Then for a Greatest Hits CD, Roger Troutman did a remix of Dre's California Love.
 
Soulfood , Suge Knight made him give it to him (no homo???)

Yea that was kleers bassline that was used in addition to the roger troutman song
 
soul food the one with the joe cocker piano and trumpet is the remix, the one with the kleer bassline is the original cali love

my info is from the cd booklets of all eyez on me digitally remastered w/ bonus tracks

EDIT:SoulFood why do you think the Roger Troutman version (with the rappers Lo Tech mentioned) is a remix of Cali Love that CD came out in 95' , and BJ said it was the 1st
 
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Your info is incorrect.

Heres my info from the CD booklet

Contains interpolations from WEST COAST POPLOCK, which was performed by Ronnie Hudson, but Roger Troutman has (writing?) credits on the Ronnie Hudson song.

It does NOT contain a song from So Tuff, So Ruff like the-breaks.com said. It contains interpolations from DANCE FLOOR by R. Troutman and L. Troutman,

and WOMAN TO WOMAN by J. Cocker

But I was right, The song Nona put up is a remix of Dre's version by Roger Troutman, Even though Dre's version interpolates 2 songs that Roger has credits for.
 
No, Its the ORIGINAL version with the interpolation of Woman to Woman. The CD I have is 2pac - Greatest Hits. The song is called 'California Love (Original Version)'
 
What CD do you got?Greatest Hits,AEOM Remastered (the green one), AEOM remastered (regular),The orignal AEOM

Your right this is all very confusing :confused:

I heard Dre orignally did Cali Love with Ice Cube and I heard one with cube spittin pacs lines, but suge made him let 2pac use it for his album, but the version I heard was with the joe cocker piano, but on 2pacs album its the one where in the video
2pacs in bed and wakes up , the joe cocker one is a bonus on the rerelease :confused:
 
I don't care. But whatever, To answer your original question, Dre did his version first.
Roger Troutmans So Ruff So Tuff and Roger Troutmans Dance Floor have the exact same music which is why the booklet and the-breaks.com say different. I do not know WHAT Dre interpolated from Dance Floor/So Ruff, So Tuff but it wasnt much and defnitely was vocals. The Original Version of California Love that was released, 2pac ft Dr Dre, Contains a musical interpolation of Woman to Woman performed by Joe Cocker and a Vocal interpolation from West Coast Pop lock performed by Rodney Hudson, Like I've already said.
Roger Troutman's California Love is a remix. I'm so certain. However, If you show me some proof that this is not the case which I really doubt then I'll apologize.

EDIT: However, I was right... The version of Californa Love on All Eyez on Me is a REMIX, Therefore I'm right :D
LOL
 
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Haha you are right , you sonned me :(
But you still didnt say how you know Roger version that I posted is a remix of Dres :confused:
 
Why?
Because it's ****ing obvious, dumb ass. First off its from Roger Troutman's Greatest Hits CD. Second, Pac's California Love was released before Roger's and if Pac/Dre's version was a remix of that RT song, which its NOT, Then there would be credit to Troutman's California Love, Which theres NOT. AND I doubt Roger Troutman SAMPLES. It was all Dre, How could you even begin to think Roger Troutman did his version first.

Don't be such a dumb ass and do some ****in research. You could have at least known that California Love on a CD YOU FCUKING HAVE was a REMIX.
SHYT




edit: And if you still don't believe me, FINE. I mean, Its all FACTS. So if I'm wrong, I will wear a sign saying NONA'S BYTCH and take a picture of myself with it on and put it on this site, And I'll make sure you get a clear shot of my nuts so you can comment on them. :)

( LOL that probably sounded kinda strange to some people who don't know what Nona posted earlier :\ )
 
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Why?
Because it's fucking obvious, dumb ass. First off its from Roger Troutman's Greatest Hits CD. Second, Pac's California Love was released before Roger's and if Pac/Dre's version was a remix of that RT song, which its NOT, Then there would be credit to Troutman's California Love, Which theres NOT. AND I doubt Roger Troutman SAMPLES. It was all Dre, How could you even begin to think Roger Troutman did his version first .

Don't be such a dumb ass and do some fucking research. You could have at least known that California Love on a CD YOU FUCKING HAVE was a REMIX.
SHIT
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Geez, why are you so hostile man?Was there a need to call me a dumbass?Did you forget to take your medicine or something?

Anyways,since it was on his Greatest hits CD it lead me to believe it was a "hit" in the past, like the rest of the songs on the CD are.

Roger Troutman has interpolated (like California Love that Dre did was) many songs, like "the midnight hour".Since the California Love on Rogers Troutmans CD was an interpolation of Joe Cocker Woman to Woman ,Ronnie Hudson, and Kleer (the beat switches half way through the song) why would it credit Roger Troutman, when the song wasn't even his :confused:

I thought the Cali Love on AEOM was the original wasnt a remix because it was the only cali love on AEOM and didnt come on any album until Greatest hits and the remastered CD.
 
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