What is IAIRA ?!

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I got an email from them :

---THE IAIRA REPORT---

DAILY CHART POSITION UPDATE - TOP 40 Notice

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DATE: 07/20/2010

ARTIST: ***

CURRENT RELEASE: **** (song name)



CHART POSITION:28

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Dear ***(my producer name),

The International Association of Independent Recording Artists, IAIRA, recognizes and honors artistic achievement, technical proficiency, and overall excellence in sound recording by monitoring chart activity as published in various reporting charts from around the world. According to our research, on 07/20/2010 the above referenced release; *** (my song's name), by ***(my producer name), had attained The Number 28 Position on at least one of the charts monitored and verified by IAIRA. On the basis of that research, IAIRA has qualified the aforementioned release as eligible for Certification as an International 'Top 40'.

On behalf of the entire IAIRA staff and the Recording Arts Community at large, please accept our most sincere Congratulations and Best Wishes for your continued success!

Sincerely,



IAIRA Research Team

www.iaira.com

I went to their site, but i didn't find any "Top40" there or any other stuff.
 
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i got the same thing last nite bro. i forgot to post my link.... i think its spam but i clicked on the site and it looked legit
 
Yeah, but what they are trying to do anyway? I don't see any way how they can scam me with that letter.
 
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I dunno it might be legit..

Things that concern me:

-Website looks like a 15 year old made it.
-Twitter account has 3 followers.
-MySpace has 1 friend.

Doesn't seem like an established site but the whois info says the domain is a few years old, but that's not to say IAIRA wasn't something else before it became what it is now.

Just roll with it until they ask for money., see where it goes from there.
 
I dunno it might be legit..

Things that concern me:

-Website looks like a 15 year old made it.
-Twitter account has 3 followers.
-MySpace has 1 friend.

Doesn't seem like an established site but the whois info says the domain is a few years old, but that's not to say IAIRA wasn't something else before it became what it is now.

Just roll with it until they ask for money., see where it goes from there.

I registered there it said "info submitted" i think the check your info before registering you (of course i made a password different than usual) . I don't see any top40 there to check my song or any other songs out there. What they claim to do? To help producers/artists like ASCAP?
 
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I tried to search on google, nothing comes out excpet their website. Oh, and my thread is 2nd on google search if yo type "IAIRA" lol.

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Looks like they check independent chart positions then sell certificates.

So in theory they go to soundclick and look at the charts, send out a bunch of emails and hope to sell some certificates.

Look at the certificates lol http://www.iaira.com/rw_media/users/user_files/23954/Both Certs framed.jpg

looks like the joints they give out to the spelling-bee losers :D

hahaha . I got same certificates on my wall, but it says there that i am king of the world and other says that i am certificated pirate haha.

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I just emailed them, asking where can i see that Top40
 
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lol shit I wanna be a pirate too... No wait I wanna be a ninja..
 
IAIRA is Legit

Just to introduce myself. I am Mark Carman, the founder of the IAIRA organization. Yes, you are correct, we have no friends on facebook or myspace or twitter...yet. However, we are anticipating a tremendous amount of growth ad quickly. You have not heard of IAIRA because we have been for the most part exclusive to Nashville. We have been monitoring paper charts and using snail mail. Crap... I 50 yrs old! I can barely use a cell phone. There is no scam. There is no membership fee and certification costs $20.00 and $11.50 per True Original copy. You can only get scammed so bad if that's a scam. I am in the process of uploading a lifetime of experience at the highest levels of the business and making that info, tutorials and all available for FREE. The ONLY way we make money with IAIRA is through the small margins on certification and purchases through our advertiser affiliate links.

I invite you to call or email me directly and I will answer your ?'s.

I am, like you, a musician. i have been very fortunate in the biz and I am willing to pass on my knowledge to others. I guess, plant some seeds and see if trees grow.

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As an Independent, without Grammy membership, RIAA Certification, The CMA, AMA, MTV, CMT, or who struck John Awards, there are not a lot of places to gain acknowledgement for the work you do. I came up with IAIRA as a means of sharing knowledge and networking in the very small world of Gospel, Indi Country, Bluegrass and that type music. As a Grammy member (go ahead, check it out), CMA, GMA and other crap Member, I know that these organizations are exclusive clubs that MOST, not all indi artists will never get into. We decided to offer a really nice, I mean NICE certificate as a means of memorializing something that you worked really hard for, but will most likely get little or not credit for. Yeah.... I admit it... I want people to be proud of me. If nothing else, it's a little nicer than framing your CD and it actually costs less.

Tell you what... If you email me, I will send you a certification for free. You look at it and decide if its what I say it is. If so, just blog about IAIRA. Help me get the word out that this is for real. We are just getting started but we are moving.

As for charts, will NEVER EVER have a CHART of our own. We research charts and verify the positions. We have about 40 poeple who share this visoion and we are working on being as straight as an arrow.

I welcome your call, email, comment, whatever. If you see something that looks "scammy" let me know. I will address it PERSONALLY.

Again, just contact me at the email on the iaira.com site and i will certify your release for free.

Mark Carman

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I dunno it might be legit..

Things that concern me:

-Website looks like a 15 year old made it.
-Twitter account has 3 followers.
-MySpace has 1 friend.

Doesn't seem like an established site but the whois info says the domain is a few years old, but that's not to say IAIRA wasn't something else before it became what it is now.

Just roll with it until they ask for money., see where it goes from there.

The fact is I'm 50! a 15 yr old would do better. The "slick" site is being built. The site WAS more directed toward NASHVILLE so its all being rebuilt. MySpace, Facebook, everything is being update to be more inclusive.

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Yeah, but what they are trying to do anyway? I don't see any way how they can scam me with that letter.

Just trying to build a REAL organization for REAL indi Artists. That's all. Nothing tricky.

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I registered there it said "info submitted" i think the check your info before registering you (of course i made a password different than usual) . I don't see any top40 there to check my song or any other songs out there. What they claim to do? To help producers/artists like ASCAP?
As an Independent Third Party Verification source, IAIRA Certification is intended to help solidify the achievement of Recording Artists by providing unbiased documentation of significant chart position. There is NO Membership fee and we're NOT trying to scam you. Email me Directly, I will answer your questions.

Mark Carman

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I got an email from them :



I went to their site, but i didn't find any "Top40" there or any other stuff.

IAIRA recognizes and honors artistic achievement, technical proficiency, and overall excellence in sound recording. IAIRA certification is issued without regard to advertisment, political prowess, subjective interpretation, or personal opinion. IAIRA extensively researches various credible reporting charts and certifies the chart position attained by a specific work.
Now that is the COMPANY answer to your concern. The simple answer, is that certification is just like framing your CD or making a copy of the chart and hanging it on the wall, only NICER. It's a press kit stuffer. Its a reason for a blog entry or a newspaper article in your hometown paper. Its bragging rights. Its something to look back on 25 years from now and enjoy the memory. Not gonna change the world, not gonna get you a record deal, but might get you some attention.

As for the FREE information we give you... You decide.

Fell free to contact me. Mark Carman


 
Yeah but what was the point of going to SoundClick, checking my song ( it is #28 ) and emailing me about that is on #28?
 
IAIRA on Wikipedia

I googled IAIRA and came upon a Wikipedia page. I also found a Mark Carman page when I googled "Mark Carman music".

I received an email from them this morning, saying my song was listed at #32.

"According to our research, on 07/29/2010 the above referenced release; xxxx, by xxxx, had attained The Number 32 Position on at least one of the charts monitored and verified by IAIRA. On the basis of that research, IAIRA has qualified the aforementioned release as eligible for Certification as an International 'Top 40'."

In my opinion, they say a whole lot without really saying anything. What charts are they monitoring? And if they're verifying their own charts and information, who's monitoring the accuracy of their claims?

I wonder how many of these emails they're sending out. If only ten out of every hundred buys a certificate for $20, that could bring in a lot of money for them.
 
I have worked in the music industry at the highest level for nearly 30 years. During that time I have been a part of the creation of more than 2200 recordings. Many of those have earned great aclaim including Grammys, CMA, GMA, and other awards. In the 1980's I served as Director of Operations for CASHBOX Magazine and was responsible for the oversight of both the charts as well as the editorial of the publication. I hosted the Nashville Music awards in 1989 and was a part of the selection board for the American Music Awards.

I am presently a member of the Recording Academy (The Grammys), The CMA (Country Music Association), The GMA (Gospel Music Association (Dove Awards) I am signatory to the The American Federation of Musicians producers agreement and serve on numerous advisory boards pertaining to the recording and entertainment industry.

I will not "Name Drop" but suffice it to say, I still provide consulting services to a a few Grammy, CMA, CMT, AMA, ACM, and other award winning artists and their management staff.

In May of this year I was invited to attend a conference and taping at the Country Music Hall of Fame in Nashville featuring Joe Galante and Naomi Judd

During the conference we discussed the "Future of Music". By all accounts, the business is migtating toward independence and away from major recording labels. Presently there is no real voice for the independent artist, label, publisher, etc. That is why we made the decision to take IAIRA to a more universal platform and attempt (attempt being the operative term) to build an organization that will eventually be just that.

On our site, we offer a lot of information for free. As we move forward, I will continue to upload more and more information including some 100 or so indusrty forms, letters, contracts, etc, which will be FREE.

As for certification. The certification cost $20.00 and each original certificate is $11.50. You can't hardly print out the CHART AND FRAME IT FOR THAT. We are mostly volunteer and make what money we do from sponsored links and advertising. I also make money from my royalties, consulting fees, and lecture engagements. We also work within the industry as musicians, writers, publishers, etc.

Our vision for the future is to upload video lectures by particular subject matter and again, provide that for FREE.
Now if you can find a scam in that please let me know.

Everyone may not agree that it is useful and I don't blame you for being cautious. In fact this has brought to mind an idea to add to IAIRA. What is your opinion about forming a "Watch-Dog" pannel to help expose some of the rip-off crap that is out there preying upon the dreams of creative people. And would YOU be willing to serve in that capacity?

If we can grow this organization large enough, it can become a powerful voice in the industry and in the lawmaking process.

The internet has become a leveler of the playing field. But, it does not simply make it equitable for everyone because of a lack of knowledge. When you are competing with a major record you are competing with a staff, not just the music. Collectively, an organization such as IAIRA can become a knowledge bank to combat that STAFF.

I am open for dialouge, questions, comments, answers, suggestions, whatever.

Please feel free to contact me directly if you like.

I am also planning a webinar (FREE) to address some of these concerns.

Mark Carman
Chief Operating Officer
IAIRA
mark.carman@iaira.us

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As a result of some of the commentary here, I have directed my staff to make the following changes.

1) IAIRA will offer a PDF version of a Certification letter for FREE

2) The letter will also be availabe in original hard copy form for a fee of less than $10.00 (still working on that) plus the postage. If you don't want the original, get the PDF version.

3) The certificates are simply a commemorative. Just like framing a CD or a print out of the chart, The exception is, These are really NICE. They include a Transcript on security paper, embossed raised seal, real raised ink, on heavey high quality diploma paper, a presentation folder, a guide to helping you get out a press release, etc. Certificates cost $31.50 for the first one. Each duplicate (not a copy) is $11.50 each. We do not offer copies. Again, the free version is available via PDF. And yes we do make money on them if you buy one. So does the printer we order them through, the company that makes the gold and silver seals, the folder manufacturer, the postal service, our staff, etc.


Mostly, its about respect. You put your music out to the world and Somebody noticed. That's all.

As for me personally, I have made a career out of the music business. I still earn my living through various related means (royalties, consulting fees, etc) but this Sunday I will make my final professional appearence as a musician. I am retiring from performing on the big scale but want to remain involved. Therefore IAIRA.

I have worked my entire professional career in the Country and Gospel music world. However, I respect all forms of creativity. And the industry is changing. THE INDIE artist is not the same as it used to be. Indi artists produce more than 70% of the revenues earned in the business yet have little or no voice. I hope to change that.


Mark
 
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first of all, showing up on on the music charts mean nothing if nobody's buying it.

second of all, it's not that hard to become a voting member of GRAMMY. all you have to do is make a couple of records and sell them on a national basis -- which isn't hard since we have the internet.

third of all, being recognized by an unknown doesn't mean anything anymore. that little piece of certificate? yeah, i can make one at home for 35 cents.
 
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