Whats the point of Gang Banging??

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Im asking because i really dont know. i mean, what positive outcome can possibly come from gang banging. i dont know any gang bangers who have retired to a white Pickett fence, a wife and 2 kids. is it respect that gang members look for?? a reputation??? someone fill me in because logically speaking, unless your in prison of u ris the threat of physical harm to you or your family, what would be the point???

and i know everybody on here aint livin in LA where its like you dont have a choice. but the way i see it, everyone comes to a point in their life where u can either keep blaming the bad circumstances in your life or u can be a ****in man and do somthin about it

(i just really wanna argue with someone who is a banger lol, see what they have to say)
 
good question whats the point? i dunno, thought i knew turns out i didnt.i guess it comes down to when your a kid you wanna be the tuff guy or cool guy young boys tend to want to be macho they want muscles girls money respect fear power when you live in a poor area those guys are the gangsters you see people fear them you see the fine ass girls around the tatoos(1980's b4 it went to a trend tattoos ment somethin)the lowriders fights guns you know the reg i dunno its appealing so you start emulating it dress,talk,behavior.becuz you dont know any better to a kid life is the street you live on what happens beyond that you dont know or see.7th grade comes and you belong to the hood start getting high hanging out fights here and there **** escalates you get caught up you feed on anger you feed on revenge it passes a point of where you dont ccare about a side you care about your friend that died b4 he was an adult by bullet to the face piece that kind of anger is almost impossible to stop.but some grow out of it and have normal lives most dudes stay in it recruit the new generation eventually go to prison or go in and out of prison some dudes die some dudes go crazy some dudes turn to drugs alot of dudes break rules and become shuned i cant really answer your question though cuz im still figuring out whats lifes about ive grown more in the past few years then the rest of my life

theres many reasons why people gang bang some are more common then others some dudes life storys are differnt then others california has it like the plague no matter wher you go its here and its been here in some cases as far back as the 50's or 40's now all our bull**** has spread to the rest of the united states and dudes are killing each other for something they have no real idea whats it about and claiming hoods and sides of cali they never even seen its actually funny and sad at the same tiime
 
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i mean, wat gets me is that i see rich kids (mind you, these are niggas, not white kids) throwin up gd or blackstone etc... and i just cant make sense of it. people givin the most opportunities in the world **** them up. and u would think that someone who comes from **** would get fed up and strive for better.

i grew up around gang banging. my whole family, even my moms is gd. and i aint end up doin it

i guess im just venting. i just hate seeing my people destroy themselves
 
bro....i dont know i wish i did wish i could answer your questions but i dont know why people do the things they do i just know alot of things should be different for alot of people
 
I can tell ya, as a former gang member, I got out and it aint easy, if dudes see me again I can be murked but for sure f'd up. My story is the story of about 98% of gangsters, I grew up in sh*tty ass hoods all my life up until now that is, I went from El Monte back in Cali where it was hell of the valley deep in SGV Mountains east of L.A., then here to Tacoma, south end living in a 1 bedroom apartment with 2 families, and a lot of the time I was just pissed cuz I could never as youngster understand why life was so f*cked for me and my fam and seeing other people so fortunate, still I learned hard lessons most couldn't learn at an early age and was well disciplined until Junior High... I was pretty small entering 7th grade and I wasn't white, and RACE does matter believe me.... so being the 4'11" nerd that I was I picked on hella, beat up and insulted for no reason, I remember in math class this ****ing faggot ass white boy (no offense to white people) would always talk about gangs like he knew everything about em, I told em once I was rolling with the 20s (LIE OF COURSE LOL) and he told me to punch him, him a 9th grader and a lot bigger than me, I SAID NAW, he said if I WAS A REAL CRIP I WOULD DO IT, and thats where I f*cked up, he bullied me for a whole f*ckin semester, even brought a lil wooden stick he would hit my wrist with, but time went by and I remember one day I walked into the bathroom and I saw some latin thugz beating up my good friend who was unusually small, even smaller than me at the time, so I tried pleadin wit em and they wouldn't listen and even had me up on da wall, I was finally getting SUPER PISSED of everything: my fams poverty, my despair and cowardice so I spit in the dudes face and head butted him, I started SCREAMIN for no reason and tried to hit as many as I could but they f*cked me up good and I remember they had to take me to the hospital for a concussion cuz I was laid out cold on the bathroom floor, I switched schools for a couple months and FINALLY HIT PUBERTY!!! I grew to about 5'5" in 2 months and gained some weight. So second semester rolls in and I start doing some dirt around my new school, getting into fights for whatever reason just to learn the hits ya know, smoking, and just out of control **** to be cool I guess, I caught the attention of a local crew, they were Surenos, and for those who don't know surenos they are a gang originally from Cali with ties to the Mexican Mafia in So Cal prisons that spread everywhere and deep I didn't know that at the time but I read up... but the Big Homie asked me if I wanted in and I said naw, I turned around and they all jumped me bad, it seemed like a whole 10 minutes of nothing my kicks to the kidneys, that sh*t was painful I even cried, but they all stopped and stood me up and said "your stuck 4 life"... weeks roll by and I felt I was getting deeper and deeper, dudes was on me and I had no one to turn to so I accepted myself in their crew, most of the time people got no choice and see no other way of dealing with life, dudes aint gettin love at home, and got a broken ass family.. put all those dudes together and you got a gang, but I didn't see at like that once I got in deep with them, I saw these dudes like family, at first I wasn't really accepted due to my backround being only quarter mexican and also mixed with rican, sicilian and black so I wasn't down with the lingo or nothin like that or really the whole cholo culture but I adapted.... I saw it like being accepted and feeling like the cool kids I saw at my school, I felt like big sh*t when the homiez where around, we all played each other off good in front of girls and just had a good time, but theres always that price of always being down for whatevers needed, I wont say i've killed anybody but I sure felt like I did, i've stabbed a dude, shot at peoples houses, I even took off my belt in a fight once and whipped a dudes face over and over after school and that landed me in Remann Hall for aggravated assault (like a belts a deadly weapon), after I got out they had me on diversions so I felt even bigger cuz now that I had my claim and the back up I needed so I felt like I was untouchable cuz everyone at da schools knew me and knew who I was kickin it with, same with the other homiez. But there was always tensions cuz if you ****ed with me or any of the homiez, you knew you would get caught slippin later on no matter what, same for us for anybody from other hoods, but we were always trippin on each others lines just tryna ignite some sh*t, so I went back to my old school for the big payback, the thugz knew me and knew they did me dirty, that white dude who used to hit me wouldn't even step to me when I confronted him one day just for fun cuz I had the look of a killer, I wasn't the scariest dude around but everyone heard the school rumors, everyone knew who stabbed the dude last week, or who beat up the mothaf*cka for lookin the wrong way, and they knew what I did, and how I wasn't no punk. And from there it was same old same old up until I started high school, and I was still bangin when I started making music, MUSIC SAVED MY LIFE, but thats later on in my story, but **** changed for the better, and for the worse, better cuz my dad loyalty to his job paid off and he became a regional manager for Treetop, JUICE COMPANY, went from 30k a year to 150k, moved us to the suburbs where I started being happy cuz it was a long fight and struggle for my family to make it, I was just finally happy, but this **** wouldn't seem right to people, I mean an UPPER MIDDLECLASS BANGER, word got out cuz I wasn't looking so hungry no more, I got real bigger (topped out 5'9" my sophmore year), got my license and my dad got me a lease on a nice VDub, he even put rims on it but to my homiez I was looking like a fool, but I finally called it QUITS for good in 2006, I was 16 going on 17 at the time and my two good friends were killed, it was just wow to me, I mean we've all been beat up, jumped, or shot at, but we was all high on our own luck we never thought any of us would be killed, in the end we weren't really gang members cuz we never thought of death being an actual consequence of what we do, but it was and that hit me deep, I mean it was no different than seeing your own brothers in a casket, who you just played basketball with the day before, I was asking how could this happen? Am I next? Whats gonna happen to me? Am I gonna die? How could my friends get killed? Stupid kids, we never think of the consequences in the beginning its just to fit in and think of yourself as being somebody who people respected and feared cuz I know its brutal but I LOVED being feared, and in the end we never for once took the time to just sit and think and say "we can die or get killed doing the stuff were doing" cuz to me it was like a game, I knew the ins and outs and all the cheats and exit strategies to maintain and keep a head in all the crazy stuff, and it was routine doing dirt, like beating a video game for fun again and again but then losing and realizing you were on your last life and didn't even save at the checkpoint and now your f*cked, I was paranoid, scared so I started making music as an escape and a cop out to tell anyone who was tryna kick it cuz I knew now what could happen so I was being a b*tch for months just staying indoors and looking out my window like no other even though no one knew where I lived really cuz I was too embarrassed to say (EMBARRASSED OF BEING WELL OFF LOL) I even did online school LOL but I knew I couldn't go on forever so I thought real hard and embraced the real me, I loved skateboarding but never admitted it to my "friends" and I loved making music but never told anyone, I loved rock, I loved life, and I wanted peace, like that I erased myself from almost everything I knew, except my family, I got real close to my fam and just switched it up completely, I attended an Arts High School In Tacoma to which I drove with A NICE ASS BEAMER where I graduated last year, got a nice job being a Business And Marketing Intern on pay, grew out my curly hair LOL, threw out the dickies for some dockers, my ben davies for levi slims, and just stopped all the fronting. I made new real friends and they stick by me no matter what, reading between the lines you can see, as I see, kids who have it hard see everything as unfair, so what do they do? They play the only game that has been played on them. A lot of kids don't really make it through, I was just real lucky, real lucky but I don't think anyone forgets, and you can see in my story financial status played a HUGE ROLE in how sh*t turned out, but leaving a gang is an insult and makes them look weak, if any of my old friends see me again I don't know what the f*ck i'd do honestly. For all I know they could ask "How ya been man?"- and then take a smith and wesson twin blade to my neck. So I guess after all this babblin and off topic ideas and sentences, people who gang bang don't see it like me and you do, they see it from behind and only really want the feel of being accepted and being a part of something greater than them, but doesn't everybody, all of us here wanna be part of something obviously cuz we all come here to learn and give advice. I've posted this story on countless threads and recited it to hundred of ppl who are at risk, and they never listen. The only way to learn is to lose something you really love (and moving up doesn't hurt either).<<<< AND thats real truth.

But I stay humble cuz dont want ppl thinking i'm putting anyone down cuz of how my fam made it, i'm just stating it so people can comprehend how much of a poor muthaf*cka I was and how money made all the difference.

RIP TO MY LOST BROTHERS

Albert Mauro Flores
Santito "Capone" Flores
YOU GUYS didn't go out in vain, just so everyone knows you changed a life for the better.

Theres hundreds of positives:
Money
Friends
Respect
Fun
The "Rush"

the key is to actually teach people what the price of these things really is when they do they things they do.

And I know I ain't the only one, I was having a similar convo with another FP member, can't remember his name right now but this is all too common.

Been typing for a whole hour, well thanks if anybody reads this and much love, never felt so emotional on an internet forum, I feel like i've said alot on here, from me getting kidnapped by fake cops to this. I don't really know any of you dudes but I feel like were all real close and its cuz of music. Music brings everything together.

NO HOMO LOL
 
In real gangs it is mainly a family affiliation or group of guys who support each other. Most areas where real gang banging occurs are impoverished and most families dont have any structure, mothers living off of government aid, no fathers, every ones knows someone who has been killed and this creates a culture from a young age because you are raised where this just a part of life. As common as a person having a job in middle class society. All gangs survive because of the faith in its members who show their dedication endlessly with signs, tags, ect. Im not condoning real gangs but I do understand how people join them. to answer your question, there is a sense of family, some kind of security, social status in their area, money, weed, respect, sense of having dominance (natural male desire). Is it worth it in the long run? not for the majority. sadly, most who join gangs dont look at life in the long term, most live a great deal of their lives in jail or dead. IMO I gang banging has its own purposes that some dont like while others live proudly. To not get why people join gangs is understandable, but before judgment is passed, try to understand the point of view people come from who join gangs.

As for these fake ass, rich boy, spoiled azz, never even held a gun lookin azz ni66az claiming thiz and that. there is no point except for attention. people with too much time on their handz, who need something to brag about. saw the glorified gangster movies on t.v. and now they want to taste that type of power, live that life from hard knockz and doin dirt, to rich and success. To people who do that type of lame shyt. **** em, they have no point, but neither does their life
 
this thread WOULD NOT be complete without this music video:

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Moms used to be a Gang Rehab counselor...everything Johnny said is the real mf'n truth. Respect to you Johnny for making it out...
 
Very good post, JohnnyBoy.

Gangs provide family, money, a sense of belonging, the rush of illegal activity, etc.

There is always a choice, though. If you don't join, it may not be a happy ending. Some have died for turning down gang invitations.
 
Man, here I was all ready to make a vulgar and dumb comment based upon the title of the thread...but that was some real sh*t, JohnnyBoy.

Much respect to you for making good decisions (although that whole "doing donuts in a parking lot at night" probably wasn't the best choice to make, lol) and turning a bad situation into a good one. Better late than never, right?

It seems to me from an outsiders perspective that the insight JohnnyBoy demonstrated to look at what you're doing now and what you COULD be doing is what's missing for a lot of these gangbangers, and therefore holding them back while at the same time perpetuating the cycle of violence and hate. But then again, most people in that situation don't have the opportunity that he did to better himself because of his family.

Oh, btw, JohnnyBoy...use paragraphs. That wall of text was hard as fuk to read lol. I lost my place at least 7 or 8 times. :)
 
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Wow, I thought you were talking about the "other" type of Gang Banging.....


But to answer your question, I would have to point to the obvious.

People like being in "family-like" or "exclusive" groups. They feel impowered and apart of something greater/bigger/more important than they are. Examples of this include the Freemasons (the real people, not the boogey man), Omega Psi Phi (the Ques), Skull and Bones, and many other groups.

-1-
 
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If u r that desperate to get laid then yeah going 8th or 9th in a gang bang may be the way to go but i suggest to all the hopeless virgins on fp that you do not join a gang bang. you might get herpes or something worse.
 
gang bangin provides a family...but anybody who isnt blinded by the lifestyle knows that its all bull****, u get locked up for them and they say they gonna help out ur fam and they dont give a **** about u and do nothin, ur forgotten, but then again a lot of dudes will do anything for their set...those that are deep in the game
 
I can tell ya, as a former gang member, I got out and it aint easy, if dudes see me again I can be murked but for sure f'd up. My story is the story of about 98% of gangsters, I grew up in sh*tty ass hoods all my life up until now that is, I went from El Monte back in Cali where it was hell of the valley deep in SGV Mountains east of L.A., then here to Tacoma, south end living in a 1 bedroom apartment with 2 families, and a lot of the time I was just pissed cuz I could never as youngster understand why life was so f*cked for me and my fam and seeing other people so fortunate, still I learned hard lessons most couldn't learn at an early age and was well disciplined until Junior High... I was pretty small entering 7th grade and I wasn't white, and RACE does matter believe me.... so being the 4'11" nerd that I was I picked on hella, beat up and insulted for no reason, I remember in math class this ****ing faggot ass white boy (no offense to white people) would always talk about gangs like he knew everything about em, I told em once I was rolling with the 20s (LIE OF COURSE LOL) and he told me to punch him, him a 9th grader and a lot bigger than me, I SAID NAW, he said if I WAS A REAL CRIP I WOULD DO IT, and thats where I f*cked up, he bullied me for a whole f*ckin semester, even brought a lil wooden stick he would hit my wrist with, but time went by and I remember one day I walked into the bathroom and I saw some latin thugz beating up my good friend who was unusually small, even smaller than me at the time, so I tried pleadin wit em and they wouldn't listen and even had me up on da wall, I was finally getting SUPER PISSED of everything: my fams poverty, my despair and cowardice so I spit in the dudes face and head butted him, I started SCREAMIN for no reason and tried to hit as many as I could but they f*cked me up good and I remember they had to take me to the hospital for a concussion cuz I was laid out cold on the bathroom floor, I switched schools for a couple months and FINALLY HIT PUBERTY!!! I grew to about 5'5" in 2 months and gained some weight. So second semester rolls in and I start doing some dirt around my new school, getting into fights for whatever reason just to learn the hits ya know, smoking, and just out of control **** to be cool I guess, I caught the attention of a local crew, they were Surenos, and for those who don't know surenos they are a gang originally from Cali with ties to the Mexican Mafia in So Cal prisons that spread everywhere and deep I didn't know that at the time but I read up... but the Big Homie asked me if I wanted in and I said naw, I turned around and they all jumped me bad, it seemed like a whole 10 minutes of nothing my kicks to the kidneys, that sh*t was painful I even cried, but they all stopped and stood me up and said "your stuck 4 life"... weeks roll by and I felt I was getting deeper and deeper, dudes was on me and I had no one to turn to so I accepted myself in their crew, most of the time people got no choice and see no other way of dealing with life, dudes aint gettin love at home, and got a broken ass family.. put all those dudes together and you got a gang, but I didn't see at like that once I got in deep with them, I saw these dudes like family, at first I wasn't really accepted due to my backround being only quarter mexican and also mixed with rican, sicilian and black so I wasn't down with the lingo or nothin like that or really the whole cholo culture but I adapted.... I saw it like being accepted and feeling like the cool kids I saw at my school, I felt like big sh*t when the homiez where around, we all played each other off good in front of girls and just had a good time, but theres always that price of always being down for whatevers needed, I wont say i've killed anybody but I sure felt like I did, i've stabbed a dude, shot at peoples houses, I even took off my belt in a fight once and whipped a dudes face over and over after school and that landed me in Remann Hall for aggravated assault (like a belts a deadly weapon), after I got out they had me on diversions so I felt even bigger cuz now that I had my claim and the back up I needed so I felt like I was untouchable cuz everyone at da schools knew me and knew who I was kickin it with, same with the other homiez. But there was always tensions cuz if you ****ed with me or any of the homiez, you knew you would get caught slippin later on no matter what, same for us for anybody from other hoods, but we were always trippin on each others lines just tryna ignite some sh*t, so I went back to my old school for the big payback, the thugz knew me and knew they did me dirty, that white dude who used to hit me wouldn't even step to me when I confronted him one day just for fun cuz I had the look of a killer, I wasn't the scariest dude around but everyone heard the school rumors, everyone knew who stabbed the dude last week, or who beat up the mothaf*cka for lookin the wrong way, and they knew what I did, and how I wasn't no punk. And from there it was same old same old up until I started high school, and I was still bangin when I started making music, MUSIC SAVED MY LIFE, but thats later on in my story, but **** changed for the better, and for the worse, better cuz my dad loyalty to his job paid off and he became a regional manager for Treetop, JUICE COMPANY, went from 30k a year to 150k, moved us to the suburbs where I started being happy cuz it was a long fight and struggle for my family to make it, I was just finally happy, but this **** wouldn't seem right to people, I mean an UPPER MIDDLECLASS BANGER, word got out cuz I wasn't looking so hungry no more, I got real bigger (topped out 5'9" my sophmore year), got my license and my dad got me a lease on a nice VDub, he even put rims on it but to my homiez I was looking like a fool, but I finally called it QUITS for good in 2006, I was 16 going on 17 at the time and my two good friends were killed, it was just wow to me, I mean we've all been beat up, jumped, or shot at, but we was all high on our own luck we never thought any of us would be killed, in the end we weren't really gang members cuz we never thought of death being an actual consequence of what we do, but it was and that hit me deep, I mean it was no different than seeing your own brothers in a casket, who you just played basketball with the day before, I was asking how could this happen? Am I next? Whats gonna happen to me? Am I gonna die? How could my friends get killed? Stupid kids, we never think of the consequences in the beginning its just to fit in and think of yourself as being somebody who people respected and feared cuz I know its brutal but I LOVED being feared, and in the end we never for once took the time to just sit and think and say "we can die or get killed doing the stuff were doing" cuz to me it was like a game, I knew the ins and outs and all the cheats and exit strategies to maintain and keep a head in all the crazy stuff, and it was routine doing dirt, like beating a video game for fun again and again but then losing and realizing you were on your last life and didn't even save at the checkpoint and now your f*cked, I was paranoid, scared so I started making music as an escape and a cop out to tell anyone who was tryna kick it cuz I knew now what could happen so I was being a b*tch for months just staying indoors and looking out my window like no other even though no one knew where I lived really cuz I was too embarrassed to say (EMBARRASSED OF BEING WELL OFF LOL) I even did online school LOL but I knew I couldn't go on forever so I thought real hard and embraced the real me, I loved skateboarding but never admitted it to my "friends" and I loved making music but never told anyone, I loved rock, I loved life, and I wanted peace, like that I erased myself from almost everything I knew, except my family, I got real close to my fam and just switched it up completely, I attended an Arts High School In Tacoma to which I drove with A NICE ASS BEAMER where I graduated last year, got a nice job being a Business And Marketing Intern on pay, grew out my curly hair LOL, threw out the dickies for some dockers, my ben davies for levi slims, and just stopped all the fronting. I made new real friends and they stick by me no matter what, reading between the lines you can see, as I see, kids who have it hard see everything as unfair, so what do they do? They play the only game that has been played on them. A lot of kids don't really make it through, I was just real lucky, real lucky but I don't think anyone forgets, and you can see in my story financial status played a HUGE ROLE in how sh*t turned out, but leaving a gang is an insult and makes them look weak, if any of my old friends see me again I don't know what the f*ck i'd do honestly. For all I know they could ask "How ya been man?"- and then take a smith and wesson twin blade to my neck. So I guess after all this babblin and off topic ideas and sentences, people who gang bang don't see it like me and you do, they see it from behind and only really want the feel of being accepted and being a part of something greater than them, but doesn't everybody, all of us here wanna be part of something obviously cuz we all come here to learn and give advice. I've posted this story on countless threads and recited it to hundred of ppl who are at risk, and they never listen. The only way to learn is to lose something you really love (and moving up doesn't hurt either).<<<< AND thats real truth.

But I stay humble cuz dont want ppl thinking i'm putting anyone down cuz of how my fam made it, i'm just stating it so people can comprehend how much of a poor muthaf*cka I was and how money made all the difference.

RIP TO MY LOST BROTHERS

Albert Mauro Flores
Santito "Capone" Flores
YOU GUYS didn't go out in vain, just so everyone knows you changed a life for the better.

Theres hundreds of positives:
Money
Friends
Respect
Fun
The "Rush"

the key is to actually teach people what the price of these things really is when they do they things they do.

And I know I ain't the only one, I was having a similar convo with another FP member, can't remember his name right now but this is all too common.

Been typing for a whole hour, well thanks if anybody reads this and much love, never felt so emotional on an internet forum, I feel like i've said alot on here, from me getting kidnapped by fake cops to this. I don't really know any of you dudes but I feel like were all real close and its cuz of music. Music brings everything together.

NO HOMO LOL

Daam, thats real man....Glad you are doin better now...Music can be therapy and your best friend at times
 
real **** johnny boy...all too familiar. I always made the right decision growing up for some reason. A lot of my homeboys didnt.
 
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